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From: Juanma Barranquero <lektu@terra.es>
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Subject: Re: Nethack! (was): AdaGames
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On 1 Apr 2002 07:04:08 -0800, dennison@telepath.com (Ted Dennison)
wrote:

>Seeing as I had a version running on a 256K Amiga 17 years ago, I'd
>say *considerably* less than 200K SLOCS.

I haven't got that line count out of thin air. I used "wc -l" on the
sources, and I didn't count the source of all ports, only /src,
/include and the Windows-specific directories (and only of .c and .h
files, not auxiliary ones). Rest assured current NetHack is not as
lightweight as the Rogue/Hack/NetHack releases of 17 years ago...
Pre-build binaries' sizes are: Non-windowing, 1728 KB; windowing, 2052
KB.

>Also "farily simple" compared to its spiritual successor today,
>DiabloII.

On the contrary: gamers who routinely play Diablo/DiabloII *and*
NetHack are usually pretty clear in stating that NetHack is a lot more
complex and interesting. Obviously, is not as visually appealing as
those two, but gameplay is more developed.

>It would certainly be very little work to get a basic rev of it up and
>running, which is what one needs to get a Free Software project
>rolling.

Not that I want to start any kind of flame war here, but I think
you're *not* talking about the current state of development of
NetHack. Porting the 3.4.0 NetHack (straight from www.nethack.org) to
Ada is not "very little work" for any practical definition of the
words. I don't know what do you mean by "a basic rev of it", because
even simplifying NetHack would be a daunting task right now.

                                                         /Lektu