From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 109fba,df854b5838c3e14 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,df854b5838c3e14 X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,df854b5838c3e14 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 10db24,fec75f150a0d78f5 X-Google-Attributes: gid10db24,public From: emery@grebyn.com (David Emery) Subject: Re: ANSI C and POSIX Date: 1996/04/18 Message-ID: #1/1 X-Deja-AN: 148278416 references: <4l0k0q$lll@nntp.Stanford.EDU> <4l3jns$kt2@nntp.Stanford.EDU> organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.edu Date: 1996-04-18T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: In article <4l3jns$kt2@nntp.Stanford.EDU>, karish@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Chuck Karish) wrote: > In article , > David Emery wrote: > > >The U.S. DoD has paid for a substantial amount of participation within > >the POSIX community, and by no means limited to Ada bindings! > > Of course. I was far too flip in my previous article. > > The problem remains that the IEEE Standards Board depends on > document sales for a significant portion of its income. > > I would love to see IEEE standards distributed in electronic > form. That would save me a lot of typing. As long as the > standards process needs a paid support staff someone will > have to pay their them. Any suggestions? > -- > > Chuck Karish karish@mindcraft.com > (415) 323-9000 x117 karish@pangea.stanford.edu I completely agree with Chuck here, except that it's not really the IEEE Standards Board (a volunteer management organization), but really the Standards Office that is supported by sales of IEEE standards. As I've said several times on this subject, as the editor of an IEEE standard, I've been very impressed with the quality of support I received from my editor at IEEE. She earned her $$. Also, I call everyone's attention to the column in the latest "IEEE Computer" by Lowell Johnson on standards. Lowell points out the painful fact that companies in the mid 90s are not willing to provide the corporate support to standards organizations that they were in the late 80s/early 90s. This is very unfortunate. In my opinion, what we've seen is the replacement of standards participation by engineers with the participation in industry consortia, which often have a more direct marketing/financial/business sense. This is not to say that individuals developing consortia documents are necessarily ruled by the $$$ , but rather the decision by management on where to invest has moved towards things that can show all the business school grads "return on investment". dave