From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII X-Google-Thread: 103376,9ef0b1ff7be6dd43 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-04-26 23:16:51 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!uio.no!uninett.no!leia!nobody From: Frode =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Tenneb=F8?= Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Effect of Gender in Learning Ada - OT Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2003 02:19:25 +0200 Organization: UNINETT Message-ID: References: <1b585154.0304260737.154758a4@posting.google.com> <1051400505.19347.0@iapetus.uk.clara.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: anne-bremnes.hiof.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit X-Trace: dolly.uninett.no 1051424210 25364 158.36.52.48 (27 Apr 2003 06:16:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news-abuse@uninett.no NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2003 06:16:50 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: KNode/0.7.2 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:36638 Date: 2003-04-27T02:19:25+02:00 List-Id: On Sunday 27 April 2003 01:41 Robin KAY wrote: > Frode Tenneb� wrote: > >> You would if it meant a greater probability of safer software being >> installed in the planes you fly or the subways you take, wouldn't >> you? > > But it doesn't mean that at all, rather the opposite. People should be > hired purely based on their ability to do the job. Which, sometimes, may depend on their sex. "hired purely based on their ability" is not very objective. Also, if two candidates, one male and one female, had identical "abilities to do the job", _I_ would chose, independent of quotas, the female candidate purely based on the not-documented-but-in-my-experience effect of, on average, females outperform males in the field of engineering. > Quotas are a form of discrimination in themselves - a > legal one perhaps, but dubiously moral and nothing that will make the > software in planes or underground trains any safer. Have you worked in an all-male environment (dislaimer: Robin being a vry neutral name)? The only thing worse is perhaps an all-female environment (or so have I been told). :) Even if all those males possessed better abilities than their female rivals, I would never have such a composition in my (hypothetical) department. -Frode -- ^ Frode Tenneb� | email: frode@tennebo.com | Frode@IRC ^ | with Standard.Disclaimer; use Standard.Disclaimer; |