From: Adam Beneschan <adambeneschan@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Problem with generic linked list package
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 16:35:52 -0700 (PDT)
Date: 2014-08-07T16:35:52-07:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ee3343a8-90db-4f02-9591-5128fca7bc76@googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e312c04f-778c-44cf-9032-6f390a5f4b20@googlegroups.com>
On Thursday, August 7, 2014 3:20:00 PM UTC-7, Laurent wrote:
> I thought that if the package was instantiated with an integer for element_type, "<" defined for element_type would "see" that oh yes I know how to compare 2 integers and use the "<" defined in the standart package for integers. Same for char, float whatever.
This is how generics are in Ada. The compiler needs to know when it's compiling the generic, *before* the generic is instantiated, whether it can compare the types. Since you said
type Element_Type is private;
this means Element_Type can be any type (almost), and the compiler therefore won't know whether the type's values can be compared. If you had said
type Element_Type is range <>;
then Element_Type could only be instantiated with an integer type, and therefore the compiler would know that the values *can* be compared. But this isn't the case with a "private" generic type. Since the compiler can't confirm, when the body is compiled, whether there will be a "<" for the type, the compiler won't let you use "<". That's what Shark8's solution does: it guarantees that there will be "<" and "=" functions for your type. When you instantiate the generic, you have the choice of supplying some functions to be used for "<" or "=" (which can be a different name), or if you don't, it will look to see if "<" and "=" are defined. And if they're not (if you pass it a record type that you haven't defined "<" for), the instantiation will be illegal.
> Didn't think that "<" element_type could be chasing his own tail.
When you write
function "<" (Left, Right : Element_Type) return Boolean is
begin
if Left < Right then ...
Even if there were a "<" defined outside, this would still be infinite recursion, because of Ada's rules about visibility. It's the same as if you wrote
procedure Some_Procedure (X : Integer) is
begin
Some_Procedure (X);
...
Even if there were some other Some_Procedure somewhere else that could be called, inside the body of Some_Procedure, the name Some_Procedure means itself. Same for "<". Inside the body of "<", the < symbol means that function itself (when it's called on the same types of arguments). There are ways around this, though, for example:
procedure Some_Procedure (X : Integer) is
begin
Some_Other_Package.Some_Procedure (X);
...
>
>
> Perhaps I am just to naive to believe that the compiler knows what I want to do.
Compilers are not allowed to read minds. That would be very bad, because it's important to have well-defined rules about what your code means. If I put something into a Google search, sometimes Google makes some assumptions about what it thinks I *really* want, but it's OK because if it's wrong, I can just try again. But it would be bad if compilers were allowed to do that--you could distribute a program but have no idea what it really does, since there wouldn't be any clear rules about how the compiler interprets your code.
-- Adam
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Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-07-28 13:26 Problem with generic linked list package Laurent
2014-07-29 7:51 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2014-07-29 8:12 ` Laurent
2014-07-29 8:27 ` Stephen Leake
2014-07-29 15:38 ` Laurent
2014-08-07 19:07 ` Laurent
2014-08-07 19:21 ` Adam Beneschan
2014-08-07 19:25 ` Adam Beneschan
2014-08-07 22:20 ` Laurent
2014-08-07 23:35 ` Adam Beneschan [this message]
2014-08-08 4:42 ` Laurent
2014-08-09 14:32 ` Laurent
2014-08-09 14:58 ` AdaMagica
2014-08-09 15:22 ` Jeffrey Carter
2014-08-09 18:51 ` Shark8
2014-08-09 21:53 ` Laurent
2014-08-09 22:25 ` Jeffrey Carter
2014-08-10 8:22 ` Simon Wright
2014-08-10 10:45 ` Simon Wright
2014-08-10 20:20 ` Laurent
2014-08-10 21:57 ` Simon Wright
2014-08-10 23:42 ` Jeffrey Carter
2014-08-11 4:51 ` Laurent
2014-08-11 5:13 ` Jeffrey Carter
2014-08-11 7:56 ` Laurent
2014-08-07 20:37 ` Shark8
2014-08-07 22:30 ` Laurent
2014-08-07 23:22 ` Shark8
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