From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD, FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: a07f3367d7,3025dd6d917b499c X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,public,usenet X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Received: by 10.224.117.143 with SMTP id r15mr13391292qaq.1.1349726036310; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 12:53:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.192.164 with SMTP id i24mr1852940yhn.14.1349726036207; Mon, 08 Oct 2012 12:53:56 -0700 (PDT) Path: r17ni172qap.0!nntp.google.com!l8no31160425qao.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 12:53:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <3c244a30-8967-4c93-9e65-a9734d8bcbf2@googlegroups.com> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=189.77.226.1; posting-account=TRgI1QoAAABSsYi-ox3Pi6N-JEKKU0cu NNTP-Posting-Host: 189.77.226.1 References: <38af7fb8-b0a4-4a31-87aa-b7b698cc89c3@googlegroups.com> <3ca0ffd0-1764-484b-8fab-17c0d2dd9463@googlegroups.com> <1f645050-cf4c-40bf-a797-9687b69e4a54@googlegroups.com> <18ats2960nsvm$.kfufsnul13aq$.dlg@40tude.net> <5072c9ae$0$6562$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net> <4keoa6epdxt7.1nnwxy7v7ar90.dlg@40tude.net> <3c244a30-8967-4c93-9e65-a9734d8bcbf2@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Ada, the best language with the not-so-best tool chain From: "Rego, P." Cc: mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de Injection-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 19:53:56 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: 2012-10-08T12:53:56-07:00 List-Id: > So yes, Ada is not C and the runtime needs more. Does anyone think it mig= ht be possible for the community to come to some sort of near agreement on = some ultra minimal OS/RTOS that would provide the needed functionality to i= mplement all the Ada features but contain nothing else. This would sort of = be a micro-kernel for embedded space that more facilities including full si= ze operating systems would be built from. This would be very good. I use Ada also as a hobby for programming AVR 8-bi= ts chips in bare metal, such minimal RTOS would be very good. RTEMS is an o= ption, but it does not implement all Ada features (for 8-bits AVRs), and it= seems not to be very light for these chips.