From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD, FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,6192a34d0c9ffe5b X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII Path: g2news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!s2g2000yql.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Rugxulo Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada Tutor Web Site Shutting Down Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 14:22:14 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: References: <7f53de8e-2400-4c87-a818-0b389e117c42@e21g2000yqe.googlegroups.com> <4d9eea12$0$302$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> <2aeab5d1-fa6d-47de-ab53-9a8e6ab5f27a@h9g2000pre.googlegroups.com> <3a6f1fc2-3ae0-42d9-b483-d16cf7ab1566@x8g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <991499fb-bc24-4d7e-baf6-a9c0e16333e6@k22g2000yqh.googlegroups.com> <291504a4-ec55-45f1-bf7f-13078bf71c3e@m10g2000yqd.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.13.115.246 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1305408134 14623 127.0.0.1 (14 May 2011 21:22:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 21:22:14 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: s2g2000yql.googlegroups.com; posting-host=65.13.115.246; posting-account=p5rsXQoAAAB8KPnVlgg9E_vlm2dvVhfO User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/534.24 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/11.0.696.65 Safari/534.24,gzip(gfe) Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:19276 Date: 2011-05-14T14:22:14-07:00 List-Id: Hi, On May 13, 7:03=A0pm, "Randy Brukardt" wrote: > "Rugxulo" wrote in message > > news:c31b2969-0e79-44c6-b351-77e1adeb3406@z13g2000prk.googlegroups.com... > > >On May 11, 7:45 pm, "Randy Brukardt" wrote: > >> "Rugxulo" wrote in message > > >>news:291504a4-ec55-45f1-bf7f-13078bf71c3e@m10g2000yqd.googlegroups.com.= .. > > >> >On May 5, 4:12 pm, "Randy Brukardt" wrote: > > >> The biggest problem with it is that the DOS extender we used didn't wo= rk > >> with NT and afterwards. (It actually works precisely once, then you ha= ve > >> to reboot before it will work again. Not very practical.) > > >Was it a special homebrew one or one of the popular ones licensed? > > Dunno if it was popular, but it was licensed. Something called "Ergo" Fairly popular, I've definitely heard of it, but I don't have any experience with it, personally. There are so many extenders, all with quirks, even ones that stick to the DPMI "standard". Hence, I'm not surprised that using one extender (even built-in to the OS) works better than separately. > No, I meant reboot. The extender does something to the global selector ma= p > such that subsequent runs fail. It's possible that XP would work better (= I > never tried it on XP), Doubt it, 2k and XP were almost identical in most ways re: DOS emulation. You'd have to ask the resident DJGPP expert (CWS) if he knew anything about it. Unlikely he remembers that far back, but he seems to know all the quirks of DPMI vs. WinNT! But if it's a bug in NTVDM, there's no chance of fixing it. :-( > When I reported the problem to the vendor, their response was to go out o= f > business. :-) Of course, we didn't have to spend any more money on > maintenance after that, and since it worked great on Windows 95 and 98, w= e > continued to use it well transitioning to all Windows. Once we moved most= of > our desktops to Windows 2000, we moved the development to Windows itself.= (I > think we were pretty much the last DOS customer we had anyway.) It's sad to me that modern Windows can't (or won't) run any older stuff like OS/2 or DOS binaries (or even Win16) anymore. > I don't want to have to learn a new interface every couple of months, whi= ch > is the Google approach to software. (We can move buttons around anytime w= e > want.) Sadly, people like Firefox are trying to copy that brain-damaged > approach. Unity? Gnome 3? KDE 4? MS Office ribbon? It's like people can't wait to invent yet another "better" (but incompatible) way of doing things. > >Though I wonder at using such an old editor, but I know people like > >what they like, so I can't complain. > > Reasons: familar (to me at least) keyboard interface, no mouse fru-fru, > optional rectangle marking (great for editing text in columns), find/repl= ace > in any selection (including rectangles), list view for find (shows all > matches at once, great for finding stuff when you aren't sure what you're > looking for), convinient macro facilities (by recording). > > I'd build a replacement using Claw and Ada if I had time, but I wonder if > the result would really work as well. Nah, you can probably find a good existing replacement. Most people would say just use GNU Emacs or VIM. Even JED, JOE, FTE are all good. Personally, it sounds like the one I use might suit your needs, and it's even portable and p.d. See TDE : http://adoxa.110mb.com/tde/index.html