From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD, FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,9983e856ed268154 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Received: by 10.66.74.6 with SMTP id p6mr2780536pav.5.1345593291392; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 16:54:51 -0700 (PDT) Path: t10ni12238926pbh.0!nntp.google.com!npeer01.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Shark8 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Should Inline be private in the private part of a package spec? Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 16:54:50 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: References: <501bd285$0$6564$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net> <502c149e$0$6579$9b4e6d93@newsspool3.arcor-online.net> <502cd701$0$6568$9b4e6d93@newsspool3.arcor-online.net> <502d3c68$0$6572$9b4e6d93@newsspool3.arcor-online.net> <502e9039$0$6557$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net> <40tmogy4d1b5.1kc2gm8qfrkdu.dlg@40tude.net> <503240ed$0$6569$9b4e6d93@newsspool3.arcor-online.net> <50326457$0$6576$9b4e6d93@newsspool3.arcor-online.net> <1qril0ny3eczr$.1vlhpbrjyyb8k.dlg@40tude.net> <503375ac$0$6565$9b4e6d93@newsspool3.arcor-online.net> <1vglgit7vnu4l$.2ytljabrhk2.dlg@40tude.net> <5033986c$0$6573$9b4e6d93@newsspool3.arcor-online.net> <62h5nifarvom.1myeqdyevhefq.dlg@40tude.net> <5033b4d8$0$6571$9b4e6d93@newsspool3.arcor-online.net> <5033ff28$0$6185$ba4acef3@reader.news.orange.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: 69.20.190.126 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: posting.google.com 1345593291 12322 127.0.0.1 (21 Aug 2012 23:54:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 23:54:51 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <5033ff28$0$6185$ba4acef3@reader.news.orange.fr> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=69.20.190.126; posting-account=lJ3JNwoAAAAQfH3VV9vttJLkThaxtTfC User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-Received-Bytes: 3721 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Date: 2012-08-21T16:54:50-07:00 List-Id: On Tuesday, August 21, 2012 3:35:35 PM UTC-6, Pascal Obry wrote: > Dmitry, > > > > The problem of transformation XML documents does not exist. I don't see why > > data exchange needs that. I don't see why any transformations would be > > necessary between systems. > > > You don't see why because you seem to try hard to deny XML any benefit. > Exchanging structured data is an important point. Even so, not all data may be particularly well-suited to XML; not all things are heirachial in nature and it seems to me to be a mistake to assume such a main-point is the best for everything. That is why, IMO, some [many?] new CS people are confused about subtypes; they've been led to think that extension is the right way of going about things via OOP. > Before XML we were > using many format and we had to write parsers for all those formats in > every languages. Now with XML (and the corresponding xsd, or wsdl) it is > possible to parse (and *validate*) any data set coming from any > applications. So? Why should everything be crammed into XML? INI-files are excelent for storing configuration data that is easily accessable to the user. CSV-files are excellent in regard to transmitting a single spreadsheet. {The XML *may* be large/cumbersome in the spreadsheet case.} > Maybe you don't like XML, but you just can't say that this is not an > important point. At least the current situation prove you that you are > 100% wrong, look around there is XML everywhere. Just because it's everywhere doesn't mean that it's a good tool for addressing the given problem: look at C++, it's everywhere but isn't condusive toward writing stable softwhere in and of itself.