From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 10.176.69.172 with SMTP id u41mr17446738uau.10.1469480304477; Mon, 25 Jul 2016 13:58:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.157.39.133 with SMTP id c5mr950458otb.19.1469480304434; Mon, 25 Jul 2016 13:58:24 -0700 (PDT) Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feeder01.blueworldhosting.com!peer02.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!c52no4895756qte.1!news-out.google.com!d68ni6465ith.0!nntp.google.com!f6no4614482ith.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2016 13:58:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=209.6.150.53; posting-account=Go6kmQoAAACKWg_6T5TjAYpv4OMGyXMt NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.6.150.53 References: <866e6e94-6e49-4b73-8840-9d0987254253@googlegroups.com> <5a5c5093-4c1a-4791-8e7e-0e6d97df3b45@googlegroups.com> <08e98f7b-056c-431d-a05a-0886406cc38d@googlegroups.com> <4bfa7e47-12ab-4eb9-9776-c0a061fc3730@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: why is java so widespread when ada is free? makes 0 sense From: endlessboomcapitalism@gmail.com Injection-Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2016 20:58:24 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Received-Bytes: 2556 X-Received-Body-CRC: 3832247674 Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:31166 Date: 2016-07-25T13:58:24-07:00 List-Id: On Friday, July 22, 2016 at 10:34:19 PM UTC-4, Georg Bauhaus wrote: > On 22.07.16 13:47, Arie van Wingerden wrote: > > Op vrijdag 10 juni 2016 16:16:06 UTC+2 schreef endlessboo...@gmail.com: > >> On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 5:10:03 AM UTC-4, Lucretia wrote: > >>> Because Sun paid a lot of companies to use it. > >> > >> I can beleive that! > > > > Ada is not "free" in the sense of Java. > > There is both a GPL version (not to be used for commercial purposes) and a separate commercial version. > > > > To put cost in perspective, Oracle's Java SE, supported > editions, are being offered at around $,$$$ to $$,$$$. > Training, also the Self-Study Course for Java EE is in > the same range. > > If one wanted JBoss from Redhat, the figures won't be that > different, per year. > > Microsoft's MSDN subscriptions for fully commercial use > of their software start at $,$$$ per seat and year. > > I understand that developers of programs for Apple devices, > if wanting support that exceeded the one or two incidents included > in the developer programs, would have to pay $$,$$$, too. > > There is no free lunch. But, there is good impression > management. are there more ada shops popping up? id lov to werk for 1