From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,d0f6c37e3c1b712a X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news2.google.com!news3.google.com!news4.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!tiscali!newsfeed1.ip.tiscali.net!news.tiscali.de!newsfeed.hanau.net!news-fra1.dfn.de!news0.de.colt.net!newsfeed.cw.net!cw.net!news-FFM2.ecrc.de!feed.news.schlund.de!schlund.de!news.online.de!not-for-mail From: michael bode Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: AdaCore ... the Next SCO? Date: 18 Jul 2006 09:40:28 +0200 Organization: 1&1 Internet AG Message-ID: References: <1151405920.523542.137920@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1151434144.2179.36.camel@localhost> <1151965334.709372.227600@a14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <3Ryqg.368$Rk2.140@trndny04> <1152882713.304794.267470@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <34r70ox8kc.fsf@hod.lan.m-e-leypold.de> <1153167224.590828.32290@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1153175027.628030.98470@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: pd9e13bde.dip0.t-ipconnect.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: online.de 1153208643 4425 217.225.59.222 (18 Jul 2006 07:44:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@einsundeins.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 07:44:03 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.4 Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:5752 Date: 2006-07-18T09:40:28+02:00 List-Id: M E Leypold writes: > Personally I do not think it is good to be fuzzy in these things. If > the trust in current distribution practice is undermined, it'll not > create freedom if I've to find an actual rights holder and get him > speaking to me (which is even more difficult) every time I want to use > an open source package. And even if you find the actual rights holder (and you/he/someone can prove he really is the actual rights holder) he might be believing in the FSF interpretation and tell you to look into the headers, because that's were he wrote the license. I imagine Linus Torvalds answering millions of requests if kernel x.y.z *really* is GPL or maybe something else because license notices in the sources "have no legal force". He will send you to hell. So *if* one would believe the "no legal force" thing, the logical consequence is to use commercial shrink-wrap EULA software and avoid OSS at any cost. One might wonder if some compiler vendor came to the exact same conclusion.