From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 10.99.36.69 with SMTP id k66mr875835pgk.25.1494377505658; Tue, 09 May 2017 17:51:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.157.4.34 with SMTP id 31mr62927otc.2.1494377505596; Tue, 09 May 2017 17:51:45 -0700 (PDT) Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.glorb.com!c26no83048itd.0!news-out.google.com!v18ni174ita.0!nntp.google.com!c26no84882itd.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Tue, 9 May 2017 17:51:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=173.71.201.205; posting-account=QF6XPQoAAABce2NyPxxDAaKdAkN6RgAf NNTP-Posting-Host: 173.71.201.205 References: <0fc56bf7-1cfa-4776-9c47-a573db315c5f@googlegroups.com> <7b0c08eb-be62-4d14-ae99-cad038ad0a62@googlegroups.com> <077e7f6a-5a7b-4b88-a16f-7672aec18a17@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Portable memory barrier? From: Jere Injection-Date: Wed, 10 May 2017 00:51:45 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:46742 Date: 2017-05-09T17:51:45-07:00 List-Id: On Tuesday, May 9, 2017 at 3:57:50 PM UTC-4, Randy Brukardt wrote: > "Robert Eachus" wrote in message > ... > >The compiler will play some games, and certainly will leave Write_Index in > >a register if possible. > > It better not is Write_Index is Atomic. > > Which is my point on this discussion: what the CPU does is irrelevant if the > compiler is implemented correctly. If it isn't, then the compiler is wrong. > QED. > > Only the compiler vendor need worry about this level of discussion. > Honestly, I doubt anyone else is qualified. (I'm not, and I AM a compiler > vendor... ;-) > > Randy. Is there a method besides Atomic? If I am implementing a generic FIFO (lock free) and the FIFO elements are complex data types that may not be able to be atomic, do I have any other options or are protected objects my only way out? As an example, if my FIFO was an array of some records that contained a 64 bit integer? I know I can make the FIFO volatile, but as you indicated, that isn't enough. I can't make it Atomic either.