From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,7684e927a2475d0 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII Path: g2news2.google.com!news4.google.com!news3.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!inka.de!rz.uni-karlsruhe.de!feed.news.schlund.de!schlund.de!news.online.de!not-for-mail From: Michael Bode Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: can one build commercial applications with latest gnat and other licenses related questions... Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2006 15:19:50 +0200 Organization: 1&1 Internet AG Message-ID: References: <449d5c03$0$11074$9b4e6d93@newsread4.arcor-online.net> <6sbqsh6jv7.fsf@hod.lan.m-e-leypold.de> <87Wng.5800$FQ1.910@attbi_s71> <2k8xninri5.fsf@hod.lan.m-e-leypold.de> <44A646E6.5010406@obry.net> <44A66F17.8020500@obry.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: p54af2968.dip0.t-ipconnect.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: online.de 1151759991 21906 84.175.41.104 (1 Jul 2006 13:19:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@einsundeins.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2006 13:19:51 +0000 (UTC) X-message-flag: IMPORTANT MESSAGE -- PLEASE READ IMMEDIATELY!!! X-Accepted-File-Formats: ASCII, .rtf, .ps, .pdf - *NO* MS Office files User-Agent: Gnus/5.1007 (Gnus v5.10.7) Emacs/21.4 (gnu/linux) Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:5389 Date: 2006-07-01T15:19:50+02:00 List-Id: Pascal Obry writes: > Now what do you want ? You said: > AdaCore is really listening to customers, tell them something! And I told them something. The problem obviously is: I'm not a customer. > A product without support as for VC++, then use the GNAT GPL, GNAT > FSF, VC++ can produce non GPL binaries, GNAT GPL not. GNAT FSF is ok, but there is no portable GUI library for GNAT FSF. And even using GtkAda 2.4.0 is problematic as I can't prove that the GtkAda 2.4.0 I use was downloaded before day X where X is the unknown day when GtkAda 2.4.0 started to be licensed under GPL. > Aonix ObjectAda, Rational Ada, RR Software Janus Ada... What's wrong > with that ? Use the product that fits your needs. As I said: Windows + Linux + Gtk(Ada) (or other portable GUI lib). None of the above AFAIK can offer that. Of course AdaCore can do what they want: if they're only interested in customers from 14000�/year upwards, that's fine. But then I have to look for things like GNAT FSF and old versions of GtkAda for which I hope AdaCore won't sue me if I use them and consider other options for the future (Java might be one). -- Michael Bode