From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,e276c1ed16429c03 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII Path: g2news1.google.com!news4.google.com!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!bnewspeer01.bru.ops.eu.uu.net!bnewspeer00.bru.ops.eu.uu.net!emea.uu.net!newsfeed.arcor.de!newsspool4.arcor-online.net!news.arcor.de.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" Subject: Re: Ada is getting more popular! Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.15.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Reply-To: mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de Organization: cbb software GmbH References: <4cc4cb65$0$6985$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net> <5086cc5e-cd51-4222-a977-06bdb4fb3430@u10g2000yqk.googlegroups.com> <14fkqzngmbae6.zhgzct559yc.dlg@40tude.net> <8732ea65-1c69-4160-9792-698c5a2e8615@g13g2000yqj.googlegroups.com> <4cc60705$0$23764$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> <4cc6753c$0$23756$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> <52gg2kvo94mp$.1kbk6tiqzwnra$.dlg@40tude.net> Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 21:52:43 +0100 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Date: 03 Nov 2010 21:52:42 CET NNTP-Posting-Host: 3d7775e1.newsspool2.arcor-online.net X-Trace: DXC=8<:X=1;?M>XE47KDAk81NWA9EHlD;3YcR4Fo<]lROoRQ8kF On Wed, 3 Nov 2010 18:02:11 +0000, Colin Paul Gloster wrote: > Warning: still very much unrelated to Ada... > > Dmitry A. Kazakov sent on October 27th, 2010: > >|But if Europeans pay for themselves where is an excess? I consider it | >|normal to spend the earned." | > > Software produced in Europe would cost more than software produced in > New Zealand, in order to subsidize the higher cost of living of > someone in Europe without making any extra profit for the rival in > Europe. As such, the high cost of living in Europe is excessive and > does impact other costs and the European economy. That is irrelevant so long as EU does not borrow money from New Zealand. BTW, NZ is an unfortunate example, to my knowledge the life style there is even more relaxed than across EU. >|Do you mean EU's subsidizing programs? [..] | > > Probably. I was referring to how �ire was being paid with taxes from > the European Union worth 4.06 times what �ire was paying to the > European Union in taxes at the same time, in the 1990's. It was a good investment, at least compared to other EU programs. > (By the way, not all subsequent refusals by the European Union to > Ireland were justified. Just because the rich in Ireland get richer > does not mean that the poor in Ireland do not get poorer.) This is a process going on all around the West. The reason for that IMO is degradation of the Left into the Leftist. But this is a long story. > I would prefer a dedicated Ada programmer who is so interested in the > topic that he or she gets much more done than the lazy Ada programmer, > whose interest instead seems to be going to the beach. No programmer can work *productively* for more than 4 hours per day. >|" Now, | >|people in China are *forced* to work, otherwise they hunger." | > > This is true everywhere. Not in EU with its welfare careers in 3rd generation. >|" [ In USSR | >|there was a legal punishment for those who refused to take a job. Maybe | >|something like this exists in China too. ]" | > > Apparently in Denmark the dole could be withheld if someone refused to > take a job suggested by people who work for the dole. In USSR it was a criminal offence. The most notorious case was Joseph Brodsky, future Nobel Prize winner, convicted for "social parasitism" to forced labor in banishment. >|"> However, in Europe one has legal protection to enforce laziness if a | >|> lazy person in Europe opts to. | >| | >|I disagree. The legal protection of workers is here in order compensate the | >|power an employer has over the employees. This in the end makes workers | >|more productive, from which employers benefit even more than the employees."| > > In Europe it is illegal to force someone to work without a break. Is it bad? Why shouldn't Ada programmers make breaks? > In the Republic of Ireland, it is unconstitutional to force a mother to > work under conditions which interfere with her duties at home. Considering the birth rate we have in EU ... maybe this is not enough? > I once > offered to work in France for gratis, but the would-have-been employer > could not legally hire someone without paying wages. Why should anybody work for gratis as an *employee*? Ground a one-man firm and let them contract your firm. Restrictions put on employee - employer relationship do not apply to firm to firm contracts. -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de