From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 10.50.79.129 with SMTP id j1mr8696182igx.7.1402475272844; Wed, 11 Jun 2014 01:27:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.140.109.199 with SMTP id l65mr1534qgf.32.1402475272781; Wed, 11 Jun 2014 01:27:52 -0700 (PDT) Path: border2.nntp.dca3.giganews.com!backlog4.nntp.dca3.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!news.glorb.com!h3no969900igd.0!news-out.google.com!a8ni930qaq.1!nntp.google.com!s7no440533qap.1!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 01:27:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <85ioo9yukk.fsf@stephe-leake.org> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=195.182.34.254; posting-account=bMuEOQoAAACUUr_ghL3RBIi5neBZ5w_S NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.182.34.254 References: <1402308235.2520.153.camel@pascal.home.net> <85ioo9yukk.fsf@stephe-leake.org> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: a new language, designed for safety ! From: Maciej Sobczak Injection-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 08:27:52 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Original-Bytes: 2280 Xref: number.nntp.dca.giganews.com comp.lang.ada:186831 Date: 2014-06-11T01:27:52-07:00 List-Id: W dniu wtorek, 10 czerwca 2014 11:36:59 UTC+2 u=C5=BCytkownik Stephen Leake= napisa=C5=82: > Can anyone comment on why Apple didn't just use Ada? Because Ada does not have the features that they wanted to have? Like closu= res, straightforward dictionaries, type inference, string templating, tuple= s, built-in refcounting for dynamically allocated objects, pattern matching= , ...? Ada is not competing well in this space and the features above are what now= adays developers expect, especially in the mobile and web-oriented market. = Also, if you see the rising popularity of Scala and you want to retain (and= even attract) developers in the platform, you need to compete at the same = level. If Apple switched to Ada, they'd probably kill the platform overnight - tha= t does not mean Ada is bad, it just means that Apple needed a language in *= their* target space and Ada simply does not belong there. --=20 Maciej Sobczak * http://www.inspirel.com