From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,52a0bacbcdd2da17 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-08-13 19:19:29 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail From: aek@vib.usr.pu.ru (Alexander Kopilovitch) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Realtime/embedded project to help with employment. Date: 13 Aug 2003 19:19:28 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Message-ID: References: <3F367B39.8060108@noplace.com> <1060611604.45048@master.nyc.kbcfp.com> <3F38DEBC.8040208@noplace.com> <78g_a.4373$UB4.3323@nwrdny01.gnilink.net> <3F3ABAED.3060006@attbi.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.152.82.209 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1060827569 26562 127.0.0.1 (14 Aug 2003 02:19:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 14 Aug 2003 02:19:29 GMT Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:41423 Date: 2003-08-14T02:19:29+00:00 List-Id: Robert I. Eachus wrote: > The problem with Microsoft updates is almost an FAQ issue. The > Microsoft update program assumes that ANY Microsoft driver is better > than a driver from some third party. It doesn't ask, it just installs > it. So if you have a device that doesn't have a driver comes from > Microsoft you WILL have to reinstall the driver after every time you run > the Microsoft update program. This applies even if Microsoft includes a > driver from the third party in their distribution which is crazy. For > example, Microsoft WILL install as updates older version of nVidia video > card drivers. Exactly. But I don't see other way for Microsoft, given that it has tremendous quantity of unskilled users, many third parties involved, and at the same time it reasonably wants to restrict its responsibility, at least separate itself from those third parties. How can Microsoft test an update if it do not replace foreign drivers? Then, if the update installer will ask user, this will mean that responsibility for subsequent failure (incompatibility) will be somehow divided. While with current mode of operation the issue of responsibility is much cleaner - if Windows works properly after update, but fails after subsequent re-installation of some third-party driver then it is easy to blame the driver and to defend this position. Alexander Kopilovitch aek@vib.usr.pu.ru Saint-Petersburg Russia