From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,6b881112fdc19dc4 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-05-28 19:56:01 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail From: aek@vib.usr.pu.ru (Alexander Kopilovitch) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Problem space and solution space Date: 28 May 2003 19:56:00 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Message-ID: References: <5115eb96.0305271934.737445e1@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.152.82.188 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1054176961 15805 127.0.0.1 (29 May 2003 02:56:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 29 May 2003 02:56:01 GMT Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:37968 Date: 2003-05-29T02:56:01+00:00 List-Id: amir@iae.nsk.su (Amir Yantimirov) wrote: >Being in problem space is not always an advantage. Very often solution >space is magnitudes more stable and solid then continuously moving >problems. Beautiful frankness. indeed. One question, though: do you think that this approach is equally applicable to other areas of science/technology? By the way, I see, you are from nsk.su, so you have many scientific institutions near you. Do they permanently reproduce the same "stable and solid solutions", not bothering themselves with annoying specifics of "continuously moving problems"? > So "solution side" parts of problem-solution bridge became >more useful and reused. Surely. Use Microsoft solutions (if you found them solid and stable), as many people do, and be happy. And avoid Ada language, because it is designed not for your programmer's pleasure and happiness, but for dealing with real-world problems, which are, sad to say, continuously moving. >The prime example of solution space thing is all sorts of >container/collections libraries, generic or common root ones. So the >lack of such standard libraries in Ada is a prooth of Ada's problem >orientiness. :)) And what is your guess, why these important things weren't included even in Ada 95 standard? Do you think that Ada language designers severely underestimated their importance? Alexander Kopilovitch aek@vib.usr.pu.ru Saint-Petersburg Russia