From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 4f1905883f,40783f7f814400c9 X-Google-Attributes: gid4f1905883f,public,usenet X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII Path: g2news2.google.com!postnews.google.com!s31g2000yqs.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Martin Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.programming,comp.lang.scheme,comp.lang.functional,comp.lang.c++ Subject: Re: Alternatives to C: ObjectPascal, Eiffel, Ada or Modula-3? Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 04:49:20 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: References: <2009a75f-63e7-485e-9d9f-955e456578ed@v37g2000prg.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 20.133.0.8 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1248954560 21621 127.0.0.1 (30 Jul 2009 11:49:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 11:49:20 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: s31g2000yqs.googlegroups.com; posting-host=20.133.0.8; posting-account=g4n69woAAACHKbpceNrvOhHWViIbdQ9G User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.1) Gecko/20090715 Firefox/3.5.1,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:7443 comp.programming:12155 comp.lang.scheme:6202 comp.lang.functional:2550 comp.lang.c++:48645 Date: 2009-07-30T04:49:20-07:00 List-Id: On Jul 30, 1:28=A0pm, Colin Paul Gloster wrote: > On Thu, 30 Jul 2009, tmo...@acm.org wrote: > > |-----------------------------------------------------------------| > |"[..] =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0| > |When comparing to C, you should remember to turn off all run-time| > |checking, [..]" =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0| > |-----------------------------------------------------------------| > > What would be the point of using Ada then? Ada is good, partially > because it has checks. The shootout is /completely/ about speed / resource usage "bragging rights" and nothing to do with how languages are actually used day-to- day. You could alternatively start a separate 'shootout' that emphasised other aspects of programming to highly strengths in other languages, e.g. "Without recourse to non-language defined libraries, start 2 tasks that..." etc :-) Cheers -- Martin