From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,2c7b0b777188b7c4 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII Path: g2news1.google.com!news3.google.com!news.glorb.com!news.germany.com!news.nask.pl!news.nask.org.pl!newsfeed.atman.pl!not-for-mail From: Szymon Guz Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: GNAT GPL Edition Maintenance and Upgrades Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 19:09:48 +0200 Organization: ATMAN Message-ID: References: <1128499462.850353.146890@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <87ek6zom2h.fsf@ludovic-brenta.org> <87ek697ga5.fsf@willow.rfc1149.net> <435e99ee$0$23939$9b4e6d93@newsread2.arcor-online.net> <1130321538.366226.26460@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <4360b346$0$22526$9b4e6d93@newsread4.arcor-online.net> <1130420367.514210.117660@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4360f74c$0$22531$9b4e6d93@newsread4.arcor-online.net> <711rjd.hce.ln@hunter.axlog.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: staticline10736.toya.net.pl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: node3.news.atman.pl 1130433022 61594 85.89.162.229 (27 Oct 2005 17:10:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@atman.pl NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 17:10:22 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: pl, en-us, en In-Reply-To: <711rjd.hce.ln@hunter.axlog.fr> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0543-2, 2005-10-27), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:5999 Date: 2005-10-27T19:09:48+02:00 List-Id: Jean-Pierre Rosen napisa=B3(a): > Georg Bauhaus a =E9crit : >=20 >> - we have 2 free GNATs, one with and one without GMGPL exception >=20 > That's exactly why I think ACT made a very bad move. >=20 > If you are a 5 persons company (the ones most hit by the current=20 > decision), you generally have more time than money (those people don't = > count their hours ;-). You can spend some time building the Gnat you=20 > need from the FSF tree *if you are already an Adaddict*. >=20 > If you are a newcommer and just want to have a look at what Ada looks=20 > like, you want a ready-to-run distribution. You download Gnat from ACT'= s=20 > site (with some suspiscion: why do these guys require me to fill a=20 > form), and then you discover that you are forced to use it for free=20 > software only. Immediate conclusion: "Oh, Ada is just for those dreamer= s=20 > of the FSF, nothing like an industrial language". Of course, these=20 > people do not make the difference between Ada, Gnat and Gnat-Pro. >=20 > Conclusion: it is a real disservice for the promotion of Ada that will = > not bring one single extra customer to AdaCore. >=20 right, and when you want to buy GNAT from AdaCore, then you are told=20 that you have to buy at least 5 licences (you cannot buy 2 or 3), the=20 price is 14.000 euros (+ 7.000 euros for GTKAda), so you've got to pay=20 21.000 euros for licence for 5 seats. In my opinion this is too much,=20 and some people that I talk to wanted to develop software using Ada2005=20 and GTKAda as it was good, cheap and very good. Now the turn towards=20 Delphi|Builder as it is much cheaper.