From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 10.182.234.108 with SMTP id ud12mr2373098obc.0.1414422257848; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 08:04:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.50.243.132 with SMTP id wy4mr231631igc.0.1414422257660; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 08:04:17 -0700 (PDT) Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!mx02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.glorb.com!nx01.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!69.16.185.112.MISMATCH!peer02.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!h15no203064igd.0!news-out.google.com!ks2ni4879igb.0!nntp.google.com!h15no203045igd.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 08:04:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=66.126.103.122; posting-account=KSa2aQoAAACOxnC0usBJYX8NE3x3a1Xq NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.126.103.122 References: User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: F-22 ADA Programming From: Adam Beneschan Injection-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 15:04:17 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Received-Bytes: 2655 X-Received-Body-CRC: 1589128039 Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:22815 Date: 2014-10-27T08:04:17-07:00 List-Id: On Sunday, October 26, 2014 4:24:15 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Carter wrote: > > > > Unfortunately Ada tends to be used as a scapegoat for managers sometimes for > > reasons things get held up etc, but here is one point valid point (also here > > is more info about how much of the F-22 is in Ada): > > > > http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1110502/posts > > > > "ADA didn't work out as expected, but some 80 percent of the F-22 code is > > still written in ADA. Getting good ADA programmers was always a problem, as > > ADA never caught on outside the Department of Defense. As a result of the > > limited pool of programmers would could work on the F-22 software, quality > > and imagination (in the design of the software) suffered." > > "Lack of Ada developers" is also a false complaint. Here on c.l.a we all know > that there are Ada developers looking for Ada work and unable to find it. Right, but the existence of Ada developers looking for Ada work in the 2010's was not much help to managers looking for Ada developers in the 1980's, which is the time frame I think the quote was referring to. But maybe after David is done working on GNOGA, he'll be able to build a time machine using Ada, and then we can fix the problem. Anyway, I think Bob is right that it shouldn't make a difference--a competent programmer should be able to switch to a new language (or OS or platform or toolset) fairly easily. -- Adam