From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID, LOTS_OF_MONEY autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,5ea968aeb8c7f10d X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: f43e6,d71a6822cd2fec5 X-Google-Attributes: gidf43e6,public From: dewar@merv.cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar) Subject: Re: Do I Really Need A Supervisor? Date: 1997/03/19 Message-ID: #1/1 X-Deja-AN: 226734740 References: <5g7u24$1jeg@uni.library.ucla.edu> <33285CC6.1CFB@ss5010.ca.boeing.com> <5ge9qr$gq$1@news.nyu.edu> <332D77DF.6956@ss5010.ca.boeing.com> <87iv2qt1lb.fsf@A-abe.resnet.ucsb.edu> Organization: New York University Newsgroups: comp.software-eng,comp.lang.ada Date: 1997-03-19T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Graham says <> Well I certainly agree that having too many management types around is a big problem, but I am not sure that it is the biggest problem. In my experience, the too-many-people syndrome is most serious at the technical level. There are lots of projects where 90 low level people are desperately struggling to do a bad job of implementing a system which 10 really good people could do in a fraction of the time. Very often this is the result of a beaurocratic structure which has no problem in hiring hundreds of people and paying them $50,000, but recoils in horror at the idea of replacing dozens of such low level people with one really competent person and paying them what they are worth. I certainly see this phenomenon at work in negotiating T&M rates with the government. Very often you are in the position of saying: if we charge $50 an hour, then we need to do this with low level people, and the total cost will be $x. If we charge $200 an hour, then we can do this with competent people and the charge will be $y. But often the govt will prefer the $50 to the $200, even if $x is way bigger than $y. Why is this choice made -- well obviously to hold costs down, $200 is much too much! :-)