From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,abd120a1d5231d28 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: dewar@merv.cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar) Subject: Re: Looking for a good Ada 95 book Date: 1996/11/23 Message-ID: #1/1 X-Deja-AN: 198332776 references: <3290C33B.1772@cse.eng.lmu.edu> <56rc87$lbb@felix.seas.gwu.edu> <1996Nov23.082018.1@eisner> <577mo9$57s@news.syspac.com> organization: New York University newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 1996-11-23T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: jim says "Roberts comment that styles in the real world are imposed upon you is an excellent point. But in fact, in the real world during a career, MULTIPLE styles will be imposed upon a programmer. For example in the last two years i have had at least 3 different styles imposed upon my by the various prime contractors we have worked with, and i have imposed my prefered style on our Ada folks at SAIC in dayton for our internal work. :-) The best way to teach this (again IMNSHO) is to train them by imposing various styles during their training to shake them out of their religious opinions, and force them to understand the issues that underly stylistic choices. " Best guess is that jim has not taught a CS1 course. I often find that computer professionals GREATLY overestimate what is appropriate to teach at this level. Teaching anything about programming and abstraction is very hard -- I agree with everything jim says, but it is NOT an appropriate excercise in a first semester course in programming, which is what we are talking about here!