From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fc89c,97188312486d4578 X-Google-Attributes: gidfc89c,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,baaf5f793d03d420 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,6154de2e240de72a X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,97188312486d4578 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: dewar@cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar) Subject: Re: What's the best language to start with Date: 1996/08/10 Message-ID: #1/1 X-Deja-AN: 173378736 references: organization: Courant Institute of Mathematical Sciences newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.unix.programmer Date: 1996-08-10T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Alexander says "It means that this "programmer" is not programmer indeed, but software engineer. The combination of "careful and well written implementations" and "completely absurd algorithms" is characteristic for substantional part of the growing mass of these brave software engineers. " Well I can't easily tell if this is just a language problem (maybe the terms in Russian have different implications), or out and out flame bait. Probably the latter -- but in any case it is certain that there is no distinction of this kind in the terms as normally used here. You can find incompetent and competent people under all labels!