From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 109fba,baaf5f793d03d420 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: fc89c,97188312486d4578 X-Google-Attributes: gidfc89c,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,6154de2e240de72a X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,97188312486d4578 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: dewar@cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar) Subject: Re: What's the best language to start with? [was: Re: Should I learn C or Pasca Date: 1996/08/06 Message-ID: #1/1 X-Deja-AN: 172531469 references: <4ttdlg$2pr@news.ida.org> <4u7hl7$amo@newsbf02.news.aol.com> organization: Courant Institute of Mathematical Sciences newsgroups: comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.unix.programmer,comp.lang.ada Date: 1996-08-06T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Steve said ">When you're using C or C++, you really need to know how the >underlying assembly language works. Why? Because pointer arithmetic >makes little sense if you don't, and tracking down rogue pointers >overwriting your local stack values and other nasties is impossible if >you don't understand how underlying machines work. Absolutely correct. This is essential to get across to the student at the beginning of their study of C++. Steve Heller" That would *really* be an indictment of C++ as a teaching language if it were true, but it is not true in fact. Many people teach C++ using various approaches without finding the need to talk about low level models. One approach is to use a set of reasonabley high level classes, e.g. for checked arrays, and completely avoid the pointer issue.