From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 109fba,df854b5838c3e14 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,df854b5838c3e14 X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-Thread: 10db24,fec75f150a0d78f5 X-Google-Attributes: gid10db24,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,df854b5838c3e14 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: dewar@cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar) Subject: Re: ANSI C and POSIX (was Re: C/C++ knocks the crap out of Ada) Date: 1996/04/19 Message-ID: #1/1 X-Deja-AN: 150845527 references: <829279436snz@tsys.demon.co.uk> <4knr5l$gb1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> <01bb2dd0.a8395e00$c6c2b7c7@Zany.localhost> organization: Courant Institute of Mathematical Sciences newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.edu Date: 1996-04-19T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Bradd said "The standards are a lot more accessible now with the increased popularity of the Internet. I've read both standards, and the bigger problem is the inaccessible legalese of the standards themselves, which are written for compiler vendors, *not* programmers." Any programmer who cannot read an informally written standard like the ANSI C standard has in my view a serious lack of capability in understanding written specifications. These standards are definitely written for programmers, and any competent programmer should be able to read them once they have a reasonable introduction (I am not claiming that tpyical programmers can learn a language from the standard). By informally written here, I am making a contrast with a formal standard, written in formal mathematical style, which can indeed be somewhat inaccessible to programmers not well trained in mathematics. P.S. Who do you think reads these documents at "compiler vendors". I will let you in on a secret: the answer is "programmers"!