From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,42427d0d1bf647b1 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: dewar@cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar) Subject: Re: Ada Core Technologies and Ada95 Standards Date: 1996/04/16 Message-ID: #1/1 X-Deja-AN: 147755341 references: <00001a73+00002c20@msn.com> <4kf739$f00@cliffy.lfwc.lockheed.com> <3172903D.1926@lfwc.lockheed.com> organization: Courant Institute of Mathematical Sciences newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 1996-04-16T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Ken writes "Unfortunately, real facets fit togethger. Does the ACVC fit with the other facets (e.g. at the vendor)? Should the ACVC grow (quantitatively or qualitative ly)? Should it shrink? Who knows? Who will ever know, given the open hostility to discussing the subject?" That's a bit puzzling, I thought we had been discussion this for a while. I am cerainly not hostile to discussing it. The concern with the ACVC has always been that it both contributes to quality and detracts from it. It contributes by doing a lot of thorough testing of a wide spread set of features. It detracts by forcing resources to be spent on validation that miht better be spent on other activities that would be more cost effective in improving compiler quality. In developing the 2.1 suite, the answer Ken's two questions have bot both been yes. Yes, it should grow, by adding more tests that are more user-oriented, i.e. more realistic with respect to typical use of the language, and of course it should grow by testing the Ada 95 features. Yes, it should shrink, by removing minimal value tests, or tests of pathological features not worth testing. Ken, have you examined the tests in the new test suite. I think they are a significant step forward from the 1.11 tests, and it would be interesting to know what you think. The test suite development is an open process, and prereleaseed versions of the tests are availabel. Comments from everyone, including certainly users of Ada 95, are welcome.