From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,8092f611ba28fd0a X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: dewar@cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar) Subject: Re: Looking for Ada programmers Date: 1996/03/24 Message-ID: #1/1 X-Deja-AN: 144480814 references: <4j2a7e$3ar@queeg.apci.net> <31556b01.1075467200@news.dimensional.com> organization: Courant Institute of Mathematical Sciences newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 1996-03-24T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: CJIII said "It is ISO9000 ratings that are magic in Europe, which in terms of software development sophistication is clearly far ahead of the US." Well I won't comment on the extremely dubious claim in the second part of this, being very familiar with the software scene on both sides of the pond, but it is worth noting that ISO9000 certification (it is not a "ratings" scheme at all) is a very different matter from the SEI ratings. Having been involved in an ISO9000 certification, I certainly think it is a useful discipline, but you have to remember that ISO9000 is a very general quality standard, applicable to a large range of endeavors, whereas of course the SEI ratings are far more specific. Both are valuable tools, with quite different applicability. The importance of ISO 9000 certification certainly varies a lot. Almost all major Indian companies are ISO9000 certified, and everywhere you look, for example on billboards in the street, companies manufacturing everything you can imagine trumpet their ISO 9000 certification status. I agree that ISO9000 has more presence in Europe than here, but it certainly is not at that level yet :-) Perhaps on the CJIII scale Indian software development sophistication is even further ahead than in Europe. Certainly I haven't run into the dreaded Booch methodology very often there (though perhaps someone from Rational will want to tell me where to look :-). On the other hand I doubt they spend their days worrying about second order predicate logic either :-) :-)