From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 10.66.147.165 with SMTP id tl5mr24044039pab.17.1423008592942; Tue, 03 Feb 2015 16:09:52 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.182.40.166 with SMTP id y6mr178337obk.34.1423008592674; Tue, 03 Feb 2015 16:09:52 -0800 (PST) Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!mx02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feeder01.blueworldhosting.com!peer01.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!hl2no9220025igb.0!news-out.google.com!qk8ni19963igc.0!nntp.google.com!hl2no9220021igb.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 16:09:52 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=73.46.72.234; posting-account=yiWntAoAAAC1KqC_shmxJYv07B9l6LNU NNTP-Posting-Host: 73.46.72.234 References: <0Kgqw.953330$_k.685364@fx16.iad> <199c826a-923e-497f-a8e2-9e732c8a5665@googlegroups.com> <87bnmetex4.fsf@ludovic-brenta.org> <4ae7f0d5-d681-4be9-95bc-b5e789b3ad40@googlegroups.com> <87tx06rve6.fsf@ludovic-brenta.org> <87lhlirpk0.fsf@ludovic-brenta.org> <4984c229-bdcd-4032-bd88-cde66482e6df@googlegroups.com> <6950687c-7b03-440e-ba15-e1092f86a3d0@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: GNAT GPL is not shareware From: David Botton Injection-Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2015 00:09:52 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Received-Bytes: 3793 X-Received-Body-CRC: 882951099 Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:24865 Date: 2015-02-03T16:09:52-08:00 List-Id: >I don't believe most of this. For one thing, AdaCore has lots of=20 > non-compiler products; they've clearly tried (and are trying) to provide= =20 > many things other than the compiler. Wrong, they didn't have any other products in production when they made the= decision to pull the license gun and they simply didn't try a single thing= else. They could have tried keeping other tools proprietary and many other option= s. All of which would have been better choices for the community and for lo= ng term bottom lines. > But I contend that any business model based on software is ultimately=20 > doomed. Not true, there is money just not directly in essential tools and that was = and is a part of a social movement to prevent someone taking away your hamm= er (cough cough... and here some have tried in the name of Free Software...= ) > Free Software has made it far too easy to copy any good ideas That is the idea, innovate. With innovation also comes the challenge of inn= ovating how to fund such projects as well. > The pioneer, the visionary has no hope of making any money off their work= =20 No, he just needs to know how to make money (or how to partner with others = that know how to make money) in different ways. Many, including myself, hav= e done well in software and continue to do so. Most (perhaps today none) of= us do not do it through direct sales. >they have to do something totally unrelated ("job=20 > placement", what the heck does that have to do with anything?) A pull out of the hat example of cross domain revenue streams, head hunting= even in Ada has made money for many. > and that=20 > takes way too much time away from the thing that would actually do good. As time goes on competition gets stronger and requires more creativity and = "different" types of hard work for payouts. David Botton