From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, PP_MIME_FAKE_ASCII_TEXT autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,6deb3e1ddefb099 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,UTF8 Received: by 10.68.223.40 with SMTP id qr8mr3326019pbc.0.1337775455185; Wed, 23 May 2012 05:17:35 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Path: pr3ni34011pbb.0!nntp.google.com!news1.google.com!goblin1!goblin.stu.neva.ru!news2.arglkargh.de!news.theremailer.net!frell.theremailer.net!anonymous From: Fritz Wuehler Comments: This message did not originate from the Sender address above. It was remailed automatically by anonymizing remailer software. Please report problems or inappropriate use to the remailer administrator at . Identifying the real sender is technically impossible. Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Companies Only Offering Ada-95 Compilers References: Message-ID: Precedence: anon Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 14:16:19 +0200 Mail-To-News-Contact: abuse@frell.theremailer.net Organization: Frell Anonymous Remailer Date: 2012-05-23T14:16:19+02:00 List-Id: Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57 ) wrote: > opinions and others. I don't believe the runtime libraries will ever > become pure GPL, because as much they would like, if they could, make > every thing pure GPL, *they are as much aware they can't* and aware doing > so will be counterproductive for the FSF lobbying, as making runtime > libraries pure GPL, would prevent many people from using it at all. I explained how this will work. Right now everyone realizes Linux is the major focus of FSF because Linux kernel is GPL, Linux people love GPL, etc. Autotools is supposed to work cross platform but it's mostly for Linux. The BSD groups (Open, Free, Net, DragonFly) don't like GPL and they are moving at different rates to clang/LLVM and other ways of reducing dependence on gnu toolchain and other GPL code and have very little GPL compared to Linux. What I think is going to happen is as everybody who doesn't like GPL moves off GPL-anything, the people who like GPL (Linux developers and users) will not be upset at all, indeed they will be very happy, to see all their libraries GPLd. So no, FSF can't go GPL libraries today, but things are moving in the right direction (for everybody, really) so sooner or later only Linux code will be GPL, including all the libraries, and BSD and other projects will have virtually no GPL code. Then there will be no war and nobody upset when FSF GPLs all the libraries. > May be you are less spreading FUD (which is always too bad to say to > someone) than doing unprobable extrapolations, for some reasons you are > the only one to know. I've been right about stuff like this before and I think the extrapolations are reasonable conclusions based on actual trends. Having a major project like FreeBSD openly state their goal to get off gcc and move to clang/LLVM is something that will have far reaching effects. Right now it is possible to compile ALL of FreeBSD with clang. This shows people there is no reason to be serfs to Stallman or enslaved by GPL, or FSF, etc. That's REAL freedom!