From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 10.66.240.3 with SMTP id vw3mr19292059pac.37.1454784497983; Sat, 06 Feb 2016 10:48:17 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.182.227.200 with SMTP id sc8mr362526obc.0.1454784497948; Sat, 06 Feb 2016 10:48:17 -0800 (PST) Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!mx02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!au2pb.net!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!news.glorb.com!hb3no1457302igb.0!news-out.google.com!kr2ni8500igb.0!nntp.google.com!hb3no1457293igb.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2016 10:48:17 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <02241ec4-0f95-4f63-9abc-092f167eb59e@googlegroups.com> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=107.179.250.49; posting-account=MRPdDAoAAADUJmZVjnYaoafXFMadSeY1 NNTP-Posting-Host: 107.179.250.49 References: <02241ec4-0f95-4f63-9abc-092f167eb59e@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Ada package registry? From: olivier.henley@gmail.com Injection-Date: Sat, 06 Feb 2016 18:48:17 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:29379 Date: 2016-02-06T10:48:17-08:00 List-Id: @ M. Brukardt: 1. You can look at it the way you want, the end result of something like co= de.dlang.org or haskell stack is more neat, efficient, structured, coherent= and appealing than the noisy search engine at AdaIC. (I entered the term p= hysic ... OMG It was disastrous. Nothing relevant. I even tried to find tha= t search utility directly from google. It was like a detective quest!) Argu= ing the opposite is, IMO, like arguing that the earth is flat.=20 2. You use way too much strong words like harmful and insult, to nuke a PM/= PR proposition. I get it that you are a tenor of the Ada community but it d= oes not qualify you to serve what I call 'toxic arguments'. IMHO, your stat= u quo and orthodoxy deeply anchored in 'has been' technology poses much mor= e of a drag to the Ada pipelines than the envisioning of a PM for Ada; for = future, open source, pure Ada code projects. 3. By not acting to attract people, you are constantly redirecting smart yo= ung people to other communities, e.g Dlang. Many clever pals want to ditch = C++ and Ada would be a perfect fit to foster them. Wont happen with loud vo= ices like yours 'bullying' sensible propositions around. (I work at Ubisoft= Montreal. Yesterday my boss was asking about my website and I told him I d= id it in Ada. You know what he asked me: 'Ada... is it not an old programmi= ng language?'. By old he meant dead; Ada needs a nice haircut.) To me it lo= oks like you want to keep Ada and the accompanying discourse for yourself. = Am I wrong? 4. A PM/PR ... yeah it is for open source projects. If you took the time to= check code.dlang you would have get it from the start. You can keep your p= roprietary stuff for you alone, on your MUCH better VCS system than what is= in main use. Oh btw, I myself solved the problem for a quantum computer. I= t is in my basement... but I cant show you its proprietary stuff and I lost= the key to enter the vault too... sorry. 5. Would you mind stop musing about your realizations and views of the worl= d in precise topic forum threads. It slides the discussion into 'not constr= uctive land'. Thank you. 6. All your knowledge about software architecture, maybe you could put it t= o good use by writing a book and/or making free software so people like me = could study your code and learn. If you already did please direct me.=20 My one cent... to put my false humility on the back of deflation.