From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 107f24,582dff0b3f065a52 X-Google-Attributes: gid107f24,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,582dff0b3f065a52 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,582dff0b3f065a52 X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,bc1361a952ec75ca X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-08-01 15:12:46 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!intgwpad.nntp.telstra.net!news-server.bigpond.net.au!not-for-mail From: Dale Stanbrough Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.functional Subject: Re: How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of service attack. Organization: RMIT References: <3B6555ED.9B0B0420@sneakemail.com> <87n15lxzzv.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> <3B672322.B5EA1B66@home.com> <5ee5b646.0108010949.5abab7fe@posting.google.com> <%CX97.14134$ar1.47393@www.newsranger.com> User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.1 (PPC) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 22:12:44 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 144.132.94.47 X-Complaints-To: news@bigpond.net.au X-Trace: news-server.bigpond.net.au 996703964 144.132.94.47 (Thu, 02 Aug 2001 08:12:44 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 08:12:44 EST Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:10992 comp.lang.c:71432 comp.lang.c++:79175 comp.lang.functional:7114 Date: 2001-08-01T22:12:44+00:00 List-Id: Mike Smith wrote: > Yes, I do. However, what I also understand is that buffer overflow problems > are a *bug*, not a "feature", and they are a bug in the *application code*, > not the language. Only improperly written C code can contain buffer > overflow problems, and there is absolutely *no* excuse for finding them in > C++ code, because the STL can be used to eliminate them completely. Ah, that's the solution! Lets just write -proper- code. Chain saw guards - not needed, just use them properly! Seat belts - not needed, just drive properly! Languages with checks - not needed - just code properly! Condoms ..., er, um.... Dale :-)