From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,915d37e7b8e0ec69 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII Path: g2news1.google.com!news4.google.com!news.glorb.com!newsfeed.gamma.ru!Gamma.RU!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newspeer2.se.telia.net!se.telia.net!masternews.telia.net.!newsb.telia.net.POSTED!not-for-mail From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rn_Persson?= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7-1.1.fc4 (X11/20050929) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: OT: was Re: and visual library once again References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 23:40:57 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.209.116.179 X-Complaints-To: abuse@telia.com X-Trace: newsb.telia.net 1130456457 217.209.116.179 (Fri, 28 Oct 2005 01:40:57 CEST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 01:40:57 CEST Organization: Telia Internet Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:6015 Date: 2005-10-27T23:40:57+00:00 List-Id: tmoran@acm.org wrote: > >>There's a hidden assumption in that argument, namely that "GPL'd" is a >>subset of "public goods". If GPL'd programs aren't public goods, then >>your conclusion about who will pay programmers is invalid. > > To not be a "Public Good", it would have to either be exclusive - easy > to control who gets a copy, or rivalrous - if you have it, it will be less > valuable to me (a CIA cryptography program for instance). Offhand I can't > think of an example of GPLing such a program. But I'm sure you *can* think of some examples of GPL'd programs, and those will then have to fall into the "public goods" category. Hence, by your own reasoning, GPL'd programs *are* (a subset of) public goods, which is perfectly consistent with your calling Steve's GPL'd programs public goods. > Further, I said "the market > will undersupply", not "the market will supply zero, so only non-market > orgs will supply". True, but the sentence continued "leaving it to government or other organizations not guided by the market to pay programmers." That sounds like the market would not pay programmers to any significant extent. -- Bj�rn Persson PGP key A88682FD omb jor ers @sv ge. r o.b n.p son eri nu