From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD, FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,b314a3c8f7311755 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,CP1252 Path: g2news2.google.com!postnews.google.com!w39g2000prb.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Britt Snodgrass Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: IBM Rational Ada Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 08:00:00 -0800 (PST) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: References: <57Kgl.327677$Mh5.326555@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <925cad43-6435-4115-83cf-6dc9b4f20612@o40g2000prn.googlegroups.com> <0029a4b0-d524-41cb-830c-c60fb9a35e09@p2g2000prn.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.175.225.24 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1233590400 527 127.0.0.1 (2 Feb 2009 16:00:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 16:00:00 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: w39g2000prb.googlegroups.com; posting-host=205.175.225.24; posting-account=rdRzuwoAAAAyW3CSBhs_xgfCUJSc1aNt User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1; Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1) ; InfoPath.1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) X-HTTP-Via: 1.1 secproxy04.rockwellcollins.com:8080 (IWSS) Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:4514 Date: 2009-02-02T08:00:00-08:00 List-Id: On Jan 31, 3:55=A0am, Martin wrote: > On Jan 31, 3:20=A0am, Britt Snodgrass wrote: > > > IBM would be better served if they offered a hobbyist license for Apex > > or switched to an open-source, support based business model. Apex was > > great for its time but IBM has treated it as a (diminishing return) > > cash cow for several years, ever since they bought Rational. I fear > > that Telelogic (IBM's recent acquisition) will suffer the same fate as > > Rational (great products, uncompetitively priced, left to fade away). > > Hope not...we are heavy users of Telelogic Rhapsody... > Yes, we also use Telelogic Rhapsody and DOORS and like them pretty well. I was not happy to hear that IBM had acquired Telelogic. I am particularly disappointed in the way IBM has treated its ClearCase configuration management product that it acquired with the purchase of Rational. ClearCase is architecturally brilliant and well implemented. Its also rather cool to use once you=92ve =93got it=94. However, ClearCase licenses are expensive and my company is rapidly switching all new and most existing projects to the =93free=94 Subversion open-source CM tool. Subversion isn=92t nearly as capable (in my opinion) but its arguably good enough. IBM apparently would rather lose all ClearCase customers before it would consider lowering the price on a mature product to a few $$$ per license per year. - Britt