From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 10.43.6.5 with SMTP id oi5mr3947426icb.11.1423091866300; Wed, 04 Feb 2015 15:17:46 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.182.107.228 with SMTP id hf4mr7440obb.6.1423091866173; Wed, 04 Feb 2015 15:17:46 -0800 (PST) Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!mx02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.glorb.com!peer02.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!hl2no7328668igb.0!news-out.google.com!qk8ni25140igc.0!nntp.google.com!hl2no7328663igb.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 15:17:46 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=173.18.241.25; posting-account=HQu3XwoAAACgXAZiVLlGuYCkuhxw8i0w NNTP-Posting-Host: 173.18.241.25 References: <0Kgqw.953330$_k.685364@fx16.iad> <199c826a-923e-497f-a8e2-9e732c8a5665@googlegroups.com> <87bnmetex4.fsf@ludovic-brenta.org> <4ae7f0d5-d681-4be9-95bc-b5e789b3ad40@googlegroups.com> <87tx06rve6.fsf@ludovic-brenta.org> <87lhlirpk0.fsf@ludovic-brenta.org> <4984c229-bdcd-4032-bd88-cde66482e6df@googlegroups.com> <6950687c-7b03-440e-ba15-e1092f86a3d0@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: GNAT GPL is not shareware From: "Jedi Tek'Unum" Injection-Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2015 23:17:46 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Received-Bytes: 3363 X-Received-Body-CRC: 4263430186 Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:24881 Date: 2015-02-04T15:17:46-08:00 List-Id: On Wednesday, February 4, 2015 at 2:57:17 PM UTC-6, Randy Brukardt wrote: > Part of my objection to your rant here is that you keep making this about= =20 > Ada. It's not about Ada, its about any software with built professionally= =20 > (or, practically any other way). There's nothing special about Ada in thi= s=20 > regard, there are only a few things that truly are available everywhere. Yes, I get it and agree with the whole software picture. Like I said, we al= l have to adapt. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO/IEC_JTC_1/SC_22 list 7 active ISO standard= programming languages. They fall in the 2015 TIOBE rankings as follows (*= for supported in GCC) (yeh I already hear the complaints about how TIOBE w= orks so http://www.langpop.com/ is another). 1 C* 4 C++* 13 COBOL 22 Ada* 43 Prolog 44 Fortran* My experience has been that there are far more pre-packaged gcc builds that= include Fortran than there are that include Ada (which until this moment w= as almost zero - I just discovered that CSW [Solaris freeware package manag= er] has 4.9.2 Ada so that's a start!). I think Ada has been sinking on the TIOBE rankings. Surely everyone in this= group would like to see it going the other way. Before any of the other is= sues - real or imaginary - get addressed this problem with easy availabilit= y has to be fixed.