From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD, FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,e7ceb00d83425e3a X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!w4g2000prd.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: "jhc0033@gmail.com" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: rant (Re: Ada featured in Doctor Dobb's Journal ) Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 02:38:06 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: References: <31a97103-1cbb-47b5-a93c-2a29c206556f@e39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <0d254195-50cb-4bad-b776-8d5c2ab09b6c@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> <878wy9uyg9.fsf@ludovic-brenta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: 75.26.46.184 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1211017086 31135 127.0.0.1 (17 May 2008 09:38:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 09:38:06 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: w4g2000prd.googlegroups.com; posting-host=75.26.46.184; posting-account=ZDEUcwoAAAAfEl68GET6fODebgE-CIe2 User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.14) Gecko/20080404 Firefox/2.0.0.14,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:150 Date: 2008-05-17T02:38:06-07:00 List-Id: On May 17, 1:28 am, Ludovic Brenta wrote: > If what you > want is a comparison of C++ versus Ada, look elsewhere, like > e.g.http://archive.adaic.com/docs/present/engle/comments/ Actually, that's terrible. Some figures without context, quoting some judges-assigned scores using uncertain criteria, comparing to C++ from as early as 1991! (C++ as we use it today is about 10 years old) Some factual statements are incorrect (like C++ does have namespaces - perhaps it didn't back then) Still, what struck me is that the author doesn't recommend Ada for R&D or anything that won't be "fielded". And if C++ was better for R&D in the 90s... Is this the general consensus? Anyway, I found this: http://www.ddj.com/184409641 which looks reasonable, but I haven't read it yet.