From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fdb77,5f529c91be2ac930 X-Google-Attributes: gidfdb77,public X-Google-Thread: 11232c,59ec73856b699922 X-Google-Attributes: gid11232c,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,583275b6950bf4e6 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,59ec73856b699922 X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-04-22 12:33:52 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!cyclone.bc.net!tdsnet-transit!newspeer.tds.net!news.binc.net!kilgallen From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.object,comp.lang.ada,misc.misc Subject: Re: the Ada mandate, and why it collapsed and died (was): 64 bit addressing and OOP Date: 22 Apr 2003 14:33:49 -0500 Organization: Berbee Information Networks Corporation Message-ID: References: <3E4E8F8C.9C096985@adaworks.com> <9fa75d42.0302250710.5549baaf@posting.google.com> <3E5C7033.BD5DC462@adaworks.com> <9fa75d42.0302260618.7506cba7@posting.google.com> <3E5CF5C6.84822F57@adaworks.com> <8qkczsAcGcn+Ew83@nildram.co.uk> <3EA04A1E.CAFC1FEF@adaworks.com> <9fa75d42.0304221126.7112b7d5@posting.gOrganization: LJK Software NNTP-Posting-Host: eisner.encompasserve.org X-Trace: grandcanyon.binc.net 1051039991 867 192.135.80.34 (22 Apr 2003 19:33:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@binc.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 19:33:11 +0000 (UTC) Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.java.advocacy:62506 comp.object:61589 comp.lang.ada:36364 misc.misc:13557 Date: 2003-04-22T14:33:49-05:00 List-Id: In article <9fa75d42.0304221126.7112b7d5@posting.google.com>, softeng3456@netscape.net (soft-eng) writes: > Also, Ada proponents made much of its strong > typing. But it was not at all novel or revolutionary. > It was a very common language idea > at that time, and then-popular Pascal had it too. As a Pascal programmer I was thrilled to use Ada since the typing system is so much stronger than in Pascal. > That wasn't bad by itself. But from a practical > point of view, over-emphasizing strong typing made > interfacing to C a virtual necessity > for projects of any significant complexity. Not at all. I have a 180,000 line Ada project which does interface to another language for other reasons (not to get weak typing). But the language I chose was certainly not C. Are you under the impression there are only two languages in the world. > (C and later C++ style of type-safety turned out to > be good enough for real-world projects.) Like Windows ?