From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 10.224.97.1 with SMTP id j1mr3405051qan.6.1379911416155; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 21:43:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.49.70.138 with SMTP id m10mr4337qeu.9.1379911416141; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 21:43:36 -0700 (PDT) Path: border1.nntp.ams3.giganews.com!border1.nntp.ams2.giganews.com!border2.nntp.ams2.giganews.com!border4.nntp.ams.giganews.com!border2.nntp.ams.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!proxad.net!feeder2-2.proxad.net!nx02.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!69.16.185.11.MISMATCH!npeer01.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!d5no1497838qap.0!news-out.google.com!gv3ni1143qab.0!nntp.google.com!d5no1566727qap.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2013 21:43:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=105.236.242.232; posting-account=p-xPhAkAAADjHQWEO7sFME2XBdF1P_2H NNTP-Posting-Host: 105.236.242.232 References: <2f813569-5ff8-4c20-a5ab-8538e6514906@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Anti-Ada FUD (rant) From: Peter Brooks Injection-Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 04:43:36 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Received-Bytes: 2157 X-Original-Bytes: 2406 Xref: number.nntp.dca.giganews.com comp.lang.ada:183403 Date: 2013-09-22T21:43:36-07:00 List-Id: On Sunday, 22 September 2013 23:24:24 UTC+2, Shark8 wrote: >=20 >=20 > Tell me about it; that's one of the biggest turn-offs I encountered in sc= hool. There's a portion of a rant in the Unix-Hater's Handbook which claims= that Unix had stunted development/advancement in OSes and with that attitu= de I encountered I don't doubt it (or that the same is [mostly] true of C/C= ++). >=20 If a proper APSE had been developed, I'm sure it would have displaced Unix.= It wouldn't have been that difficult, as was demonstrated by Linux. After = all, Unix is only really a C programming support environment, at least the = core and shell. The power of Unix is mainly down to the brilliant invention of fork and exe= c - they're what led to sockets and the elegance of TCP/IP compared to othe= r protocols of the time. This is particularly evident if you look at the ho= rlicks that MSDOS makes of networking, even DOS version Windows 7.