From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,703c4f68db81387d X-Google-Thread: 109fba,703c4f68db81387d X-Google-Thread: 115aec,703c4f68db81387d X-Google-Thread: f43e6,703c4f68db81387d X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,gid109fba,gid115aec,gidf43e6,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news4.google.com!news.glorb.com!newsfeeds.ihug.co.nz!ihug.co.nz!news.compaq.com!newsfeed1.sea.pnap.net!newsfeed.pnap.net!motgate2.mot.com!newshost!avnika.corp.mot.com!not-for-mail From: Paul Dietz Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c++,comp.realtime,comp.software-eng Subject: Re: Teaching new tricks to an old dog (C++ -->Ada) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:15:19 -0600 Organization: GSG Software Design Automation Message-ID: References: <871xau9nlh.fsf@insalien.org> <87r7iu85lf.fsf@insalien.org> <87is4598pm.fsf@insalien.org> <1110054476.533590@athnrd02> <1110059861.560004@athnrd02> <422b6d49.1141887367@news.xs4all.nl> <1110266099.441421.179290@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1110332933.587110.260410@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1110 NNTP-Posting-Host: gsglxs03.stc.corp.mot.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: avnika.corp.mot.com 1111443072 27886 199.15.71.72 (21 Mar 2005 22:11:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@avnika.corp.mot.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:11:12 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en In-Reply-To: Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:9700 comp.lang.c++:46617 comp.realtime:1574 comp.software-eng:5176 Date: 2005-03-21T16:15:19-06:00 List-Id: adaworks@sbcglobal.net wrote: > Still, when we hold one development environment (an Ada compiler) > to a higher standard, we need to understand that difference when > making comparions. It costs a great deal more money to produce > a compiler that must pass validation (now conformity) than to > create one in which the defects are intended to be discovered > by the users and fixed in some future release. If one has a copy of the validation test suite, why is it necessary to wait for the users to find the bugs? Is it that you have to pay for the cost of fixing the bugs that the users would never encounter? Paul