From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,999932ecc319322a X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news1.google.com!proxad.net!proxad.net!npeer.de.kpn-eurorings.net!news.uni-stuttgart.de!carbon.eu.sun.com!btnet-feed5!btnet!news.btopenworld.com!not-for-mail From: Martin Dowie Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: advice on package design Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 19:47:20 +0000 (UTC) Organization: BT Openworld Message-ID: References: <1110212638.336123.298580@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1gbk0qx2sgzpg$.sltzfssofla8$.dlg@40tude.net> <3jok3ghqqls8$.1rrsonb8jsurt$.dlg@40tude.net> <88zllqj1min5$.fqqxis9i327d$.dlg@40tude.net> <18e9a92kz25wu$.8b965bel5vef$.dlg@40tude.net> <1dgodaruwhhwo$.1baazg490isjx.dlg@40tude.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: host81-154-188-69.range81-154.btcentralplus.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: titan.btinternet.com 1111088840 21237 81.154.188.69 (17 Mar 2005 19:47:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news-complaints@lists.btinternet.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 19:47:20 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:9559 Date: 2005-03-17T19:47:20+00:00 List-Id: Robert A Duff wrote: > "Dmitry A. Kazakov" writes: > > >>On 17 Mar 2005 09:04:26 -0500, Robert A Duff wrote: >> >> >>>"Dmitry A. Kazakov" writes: >> >>>>I agree with the idea, but I think that hiding should appear in a >>>>declarative part. Less probably it should also qualify the thing being >>>>hidden (like renames does): >>> >>>I don't believe in declarative parts. I think declare/begin/end >>>should not be required just because I want to declare a constant >>>or something. >> >>Disagree. I don't like the idea of something changing its meaning within >>the same scope, even if that is non-existing -> exiting. I have to tolerate >>this in a declarative region because probably there is no better way to do >>it. But I don't want to let it leak out of the quarantine zone. > > > I don't understand what you mean about "changing meaning". > I just want to be able to write things like: > > for I in A'Range loop > This_Component: constant T := A(I); > ... several uses of This_Component > end loop; > > without adding three extra (useless) lines of code. > And we agreed that if there's another thing called This_Component, > this This_Component should not hide that This_Component. > > The "hide" command I proposed is of dubious value, but if it were > allowed, I wouldn't mind restricting it to whole procedures > or something. Or not. But either way, I don't like the separation > of "declarations" and "statements". The bit about declarations and statements I don't like is where exceptions occur... e.g. with Ada.Text_IO; use Ada.Text_IO; procedure Main is function Foo (I : Integer) return Integer is I2 : Integer := I + 1; begin return I2; exception when others => return 0; end Foo; procedure Bar is I : Integer; begin I := Foo (Integer'Last); end Bar; begin Bar; exception when others => Put_Line ("Rats... why not catch it in 'Foo'?"); end Main; I've never understood why this needs to be this way... Cheers -- Martin