From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,703c4f68db81387d X-Google-Thread: 109fba,703c4f68db81387d X-Google-Thread: 115aec,703c4f68db81387d X-Google-Thread: f43e6,703c4f68db81387d X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,gid109fba,gid115aec,gidf43e6,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news3.google.com!news.glorb.com!newscon02.news.prodigy.com!newscon06.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.net!newsfeed-00.mathworks.com!panix!panix1.panix.com!not-for-mail From: comeau@panix.com (Greg Comeau) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c++,comp.realtime,comp.software-eng Subject: Re: Teaching new tricks to an old dog (C++ -->Ada) Date: 14 Mar 2005 15:27:16 -0500 Organization: Comeau Computing; http://www.comeaucomputing.com Message-ID: References: <871xau9nlh.fsf@insalien.org> <19167262.fkuVsrGd7i@linux1.krischik.com> Reply-To: comeau@comeaucomputing.com NNTP-Posting-Host: panix1.panix.com X-Trace: reader1.panix.com 1110832036 24091 166.84.1.1 (14 Mar 2005 20:27:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@panix.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 20:27:16 +0000 (UTC) Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:9387 comp.lang.c++:45654 comp.realtime:1468 comp.software-eng:5034 Date: 2005-03-14T15:27:16-05:00 List-Id: In article , Robert A Duff wrote: >comeau@panix.com (Greg Comeau) writes: > >> >>>> Out of curiosity how old is the ACATS test, and how many >> >>>> compilers currently pass it? >> >> Still looking for this number if anybody has it handy. > >Not sure which number you're looking for... How many current compiler pass current ACATS test, at least those that are required. >... >As I said elsewhere, passing 100% of the ACATS, or 100% of any other >test suite, does not guarantee the absense of bugs (obviously). Obviously, indeed >> >BTW: In the past it was Ada(tm) and only compilers with pass the test where >> >allowed to use the trademark Ada. For better or worse that is gone now - >> >and with it the need for a vendor to publish the result. >> >> These points certainly "lessen the gap" then (if there was one) >> and make it much closer to the C++ situation then. > >What is the C++ situation? Is there a conformance test suite available? >Is it free? What about C (same questions)? (Sorry, if you already >answered that.) One's leaping right to mind are Perennial, PlumHall and Dinkumware's, as commercial products. There's other too, and other open source regressions, etc too. >By the way, the idea that Ada(tm) compilers had to pass some tests is >long, long gone. It was a fairly silly idea, anyway, and totally >unenforceable. Nobody's stopping anybody from producing a compiler for >Ada-except-some-diffs, or C++-except-some-diffs, for that matter. Yes, I'm hearing that loud and clear. -- Greg Comeau / Comeau for the Mac? Stay tuned. Comeau C/C++ ONLINE ==> http://www.comeaucomputing.com/tryitout World Class Compilers: Breathtaking C++, Amazing C99, Fabulous C90. Comeau C/C++ with Dinkumware's Libraries... Have you tried it?