From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,703c4f68db81387d X-Google-Thread: 115aec,703c4f68db81387d X-Google-Thread: f43e6,703c4f68db81387d X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,gid115aec,gidf43e6,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news3.google.com!news.glorb.com!news.agarik.com!195.166.11.131.MISMATCH!Quza.UK.peer!nntp.gblx.net!ctb-nntp1.saix.net!not-for-mail From: Arnold Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.realtime,comp.software-eng Subject: Re: Teaching new tricks to an old dog (C++ -->Ada) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 16:34:56 +0200 Organization: The South African Internet Exchange Message-ID: References: <4229bad9$0$1019$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <1110032222.447846.167060@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <871xau9nlh.fsf@insalien.org> <3SjWd.103128$Vf.3969241@news000.worldonline.dk> <87r7iu85lf.fsf@insalien.org> <1110052142.832650@athnrd02> <1110284070.410136.205090@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <395uqaF5rhu2mU1@individual.net> <112rs0bdr2aftdf@corp.supernews.com> <1inxxr988rxgg$.1w9dedak41k89.dlg@40tude.net> <112s1r0rf0o8nca@corp.supernews.com> <112sonip5v4dca6@corp.supernews.com> <112t3de6fu04f38@corp.supernews.com> <1110396477.596174.285520@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <112vb2t8eonuhed@corp.supernews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 196.41.164.237 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ctb-nnrp2.saix.net 1110465316 11633 196.41.164.237 (10 Mar 2005 14:35:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@saix.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 10 Mar 2005 14:35:16 GMT User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; WinNT4.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en In-Reply-To: <112vb2t8eonuhed@corp.supernews.com> Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:9043 comp.realtime:1202 comp.software-eng:4765 Date: 2005-03-10T14:35:16+00:00 List-Id: CTips wrote: > - the safety features of Ada can come with a significant run-time cost I am willing to sacrifice the run-time cost for proven safety. > C doesn't have that cost. However, if you want to have similar levels of > checking, you have to roll your own run-time checks. On the other hand, > because you're rolling your own, the run-time checks are a lot less > expensive. And a lot more fragile. Will we ever get away from the 'rolling your own' mentality? > Also, since a lot of interesting things require escaping from the core > language and bending the rules of the language, you have two options: > - you can write it all in assembly > - or you can write in a language where you can reasonably expect that > your bending of the rules won't make the compiler do something you > didn't expect. > I'd rather use C for this purpose. And I would rather not use your 'rolled' stuff for safety critical systems.