From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD, FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: a07f3367d7,2b11c5d8b0c4e770 X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,public,usenet X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII Received: by 10.66.76.130 with SMTP id k2mr1978542paw.16.1345434859887; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 20:54:19 -0700 (PDT) Path: g9ni109453879pbo.0!nntp.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!novia!news-peer1!btnet!zen.net.uk!hamilton.zen.co.uk!xlned.com!feeder5.xlned.com!feed.xsnews.nl!border-2.ams.xsnews.nl!plix.pl!newsfeed2.plix.pl!news.mi.ras.ru!goblin1!goblin.stu.neva.ru!postnews.google.com!p14g2000yqk.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Britt Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: IBM (Rational) Ada now owned by Atego! Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 18:49:44 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: References: <80499a1a109c36fdf4b9ba28fbc30741@dizum.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 99.41.226.50 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: posting.google.com 1345168277 28247 127.0.0.1 (17 Aug 2012 01:51:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 01:51:17 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: p14g2000yqk.googlegroups.com; posting-host=99.41.226.50; posting-account=rdRzuwoAAAAyW3CSBhs_xgfCUJSc1aNt User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/21.0.1180.79 Safari/537.1,gzip(gfe) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: 2012-08-16T18:49:44-07:00 List-Id: On Aug 16, 4:45=A0pm, Nomen Nescio wrote: > Sorry if this is old news but I didn't see a post on the subject. IBM has > sold their Ada line to Atego. > > http://www-01.ibm.com/software/rational/info/apex-ada/ The news isn't too old. Martin posted it here on Jul 25 and Atego had announced it the Ada discussion group on LinkedIn. I think it is good news since Apex was a very good (though costly) development environment. I used it from 1996-2002. However IBM hadn't changed it much in recent years. I hope Atego can revitalize Apex and make it competitive again. While I'm currently a great fan (and supported customer) of AdaCore and GNAT Pro, I know its not good for the Ada language and the Ada user community to have only one healthy compiler vendor. AdaCore has taken over the commercial Ada market because they (in my opinion) do everything right with their support subscription based business model, their proactive development of supporting technologies, their early implementation of new Ada standards, and by strongly promoting the Ada language itself rather that just selling tools. If not for what AdaCore has done over the last 17 years or so, there would be much less use of Ada today. So while I wish Atego success with both Apex and ObjectAda, I don't think they will regain much market-share unless they choose to become more like AdaCore. If they do then I think there will be enough business for all. - Britt