From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!mx02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.glorb.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 17:33:19 -0500 From: Dennis Lee Bieber Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: F-22 ADA Programming Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 18:33:24 -0400 Organization: IISS Elusive Unicorn Message-ID: References: <99759c3f-a35f-4745-a8fd-2fb6ab6fb1aa@googlegroups.com> <48dc1630-8e7d-4e29-8bdd-53d74932d9d0@googlegroups.com> <88a7f98c-55c2-4b5f-8a9d-c8b7512781c8@googlegroups.com> <50cacb19-5d0b-4dbe-b91b-0b3b462913d6@googlegroups.com> <9e6c5556-0454-406e-b49c-d5995934229c@googlegroups.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 6.00/32.1186 X-No-Archive: YES MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 108.79.216.134 X-Trace: sv3-djU2161S5LCmwelxnHJFjurkrSuRmO66dX35kUMTigKdTyxMwYwvTdDA8gRMCcgD3IPILQNz5tdtDZV!uwntXUxfC9kDOFo7WXJDRQzup7A42UY3CKbgJcKKQLro6tscYJw9ka1wt7RGDtfiCQVVqbIOp9Ey!PkBAjm1m1NZPkNVjt4DmO1IE8top X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 2651 Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:22935 Date: 2014-10-30T18:33:24-04:00 List-Id: On Thu, 30 Oct 2014 08:49:16 -0700 (PDT), Alan Jump declaimed the following: >With that said, no language, no matter how carefully crafted or how thoroughly validated or formally proven, can save a developer from a poorly-defined design question, nor the subsequent poorly-designed solution to that problem. If I am presented with a project, "write an application that does this and that", and I don't do the proper analysis of that project to determine precisely what's needed, it won't matter if I write the application in Ada, C++, Python, or Z/80 assembler...it WILL FAIL, because I didn't properly or adequately define the problem the application is intended to solve. > And that is one justification for why the DoD dropped the "Ada mandate" -- it was concluded that the analysis/design process had improved enough to reduce the risk of using less strict languages {If you do enough front-end work, and put checks on the coding practices, you don't need as much compiler assistance} -- Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber AF6VN wlfraed@ix.netcom.com HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/