From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!mx02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.swapon.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Niklas Holsti Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada design bug or GNAT bug? Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 18:57:12 +0300 Organization: Tidorum Ltd Message-ID: References: <4lrj5zz2u2z.u8x9cf7xzic6.dlg@40tude.net> <58f64fa9-7d0b-44dd-870c-77d9afcb82c4@googlegroups.com> <20cb0651-27ba-40c7-9f14-8d7a03390649@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: individual.net yBpEV/qWOV3rTMGr7gCxggqRaJAtEWFw3YOwzMoyfcxKkXn4WG Cancel-Lock: sha1:Gg43UbaH0hrOQdpqxHnz6O5sJsM= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 In-Reply-To: <20cb0651-27ba-40c7-9f14-8d7a03390649@googlegroups.com> Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:26432 Date: 2015-06-23T18:57:12+03:00 List-Id: On 15-06-23 17:30 , David Botton wrote: >> I regard the refusal to create a "class type", like Ichbiah wanted it > > At this point, we all know it was a mistake No we don't. > and the experiences of the last years and revisions have also > showed areas were things can be simplified and improved. Sure. > Perhaps it is time to rethink Ada not just add some more patches > on and not worry about backward compatibility. That would certainly be interesting. But any rethink should, IMO, result in an Ada-noveau that is even more "Ada-like", and so perhaps even less similar to other, more popular languages. The question is if the rather frail thread of Ada life-force could stand being divided into two camps, old Ada and Ada-noveau. Perhaps we can hope that Ada-noveau will be much simpler and therefore easier to implement, perhaps through more automatic generation of compilation phases from formal semantics. -- Niklas Holsti Tidorum Ltd niklas holsti tidorum fi . @ .