From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 107f24,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gid107f24,public X-Google-Thread: f4fd2,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gidf4fd2,public X-Google-Thread: 1164ba,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gid1164ba,public X-Google-Thread: 103d24,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gid103d24,public X-Google-Thread: 10259a,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gid10259a,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,ea8ea502d35ca2ce X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 114809,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gid114809,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-05-05 11:12:25 PST Path: newsfeed.google.com!sn-xit-02!supernews.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!look.ca!newshub2.rdc1.sfba.home.com!news.home.com!news1.rdc2.pa.home.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Dodger" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.lisp,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.lang.basic,comp.lang.functional,comp.lang.scheme,comp.lang.perl References: <9cukad$nn68@news-dxb> Subject: Re: Beginner's Language? X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 18:12:24 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.2.37.21 X-Complaints-To: abuse@home.net X-Trace: news1.rdc2.pa.home.com 989086344 65.2.37.21 (Sat, 05 May 2001 11:12:24 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 11:12:24 PDT Organization: Excite@Home - The Leader in Broadband http://home.com/faster Xref: newsfeed.google.com comp.lang.ada:7205 comp.lang.lisp:9707 comp.lang.smalltalk:9465 comp.lang.functional:5518 comp.lang.scheme:3637 comp.lang.perl:2643 Date: 2001-05-05T18:12:24+00:00 List-Id: "raj" wrote in message news:q9n6ft0pbn903d5gqqbjfjns0ae0kfvra9@4ax.com... > On Fri, 4 May 2001 20:12:21 +0400, Faisal Halim > wrote: > A restricted subset of Ada would be excellent since it can be used to > teach not only programming but more importantly, software engineering > concepts. > > However, other languages you may want to consider include Haskell , > OCaml , Smalltalk and even ( shudder ! C++ or Java ) > > If your students are bright and motivated to learn theory and > fundamentals, Lisp ( or perhaps its smaller and more pedagogically > oriented dialect Scheme ) and Haskell are excellent choices. > > If your students are short sighted drones who want to learn the > currently fashionable choices, C++ and Java are (yuck ) appropriate. > > But please, do not inflict Perl and BASIC upon innocent children. This is an _amazingly_ uninformed opinion. I take it this writer is not very good with Perl because he refuses to let go of his more ancient prejudices. However, the assertation comes out absurd. There is no reason to keep Perl away from children just because Raj doesn't like it. -- Dodger www.dodger.org www.necrosoft.net www.gothic-classifieds.com