From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!mx02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.swapon.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Niklas Holsti Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Languages don't matter. A mathematical refutation Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2015 21:24:15 +0300 Organization: Tidorum Ltd Message-ID: References: <59ac455c-72f6-43e2-8a79-efc0f3e16d9a@googlegroups.com> <19qfgu5pjszm5.s5y5u8r0zx8k.dlg@40tude.net> <161a69af-a392-4214-bd92-0e20e7522cca@googlegroups.com> <1ht5q4lxmtf3p.mntbczbpti5n.dlg@40tude.net> <0ac76a41-d276-47d4-8659-530229802d12@googlegroups.com> <1ieaan02ff638.n6kjnn72tsp3$.dlg@40tude.net> <1o9qidr7413f4$.1jbc41w6r9j62.dlg@40tude.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: individual.net RqIAqwlTpcCSOVeYrhUZrgQ3UXF6elbJO3Oz4IsfzuI3oXvgub Cancel-Lock: sha1:p3tanVk87oBurg9aTeSAg4sm4JU= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 In-Reply-To: Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:25388 Date: 2015-04-02T21:24:15+03:00 List-Id: On 15-04-02 15:59 , brbarkstrom@gmail.com wrote: > On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 12:05:37 PM UTC-4, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote: >> On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 17:47:32 +0200, G.B. wrote: >> >>> On 30.03.15 15:48, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote: >>>> On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 14:32:08 +0200, G.B. wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 30.03.15 13:52, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote: >>>>>> Your book related so-called hidden variable theory. It is considered dead >>>>>> wrong for about a century. >>>>> >>>>> God is dead? >>>> >>>> Nope, he keep on playing dice... (:-)) >>> >>> I wonder if there are any higher order dice? >> >> It depends on how much constructive in mathematical sense you want to be. >> There is no reason to suggest that the diagonal proof would not work for >> sets of all realizations, but you might be unable to construct such >> objects. >> >>> (Of course, the question needs to be asked in a language >>> as expressive as Ada 202X!) >> >> It would be incomputable anyway. So, God does not speak Ada. >> >> -- >> Regards, >> Dmitry A. Kazakov >> http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de > > To change the subject a bit, is there any possibility of using > the probabilistic approach to estimating the long-term cost of > maintenance given a history of errors with a particular language? > I'm thinking here of the statistical record of revisions to TeX > that Knuth maintained [see Knuth, D. E., 1999: Digital Typography, > Center for the Study of Language and Information, Stanford University, > pp. 655-662.] Something like the Zeigler study at Rational, or has it already been discussed in this thread? http://archive.adaic.com/intro/ada-vs-c/cada_art.html -- Niklas Holsti Tidorum Ltd niklas holsti tidorum fi . @ .