From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,70414f56d810c10c X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Received: by 10.68.15.228 with SMTP id a4mr1111403pbd.4.1316679097916; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 01:11:37 -0700 (PDT) Path: lh7ni2410pbb.0!nntp.google.com!news1.google.com!goblin3!goblin1!goblin.stu.neva.ru!feeder.news-service.com!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: discriminant questions Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 10:11:55 +0200 Organization: cbb software GmbH Message-ID: References: <9f37b726-d80b-4d24-bf3f-28a14255f7fd@s20g2000yql.googlegroups.com> <86015926-d652-4265-aedd-413312d399f9@dq7g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> <0d272f62-67d0-4905-972c-8a7e912c5531@en1g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> <148cxoyabima2.16mz6xwdph2hj.dlg@40tude.net> <01a1374f-59ab-40be-9e39-0640cb2a513d@n35g2000yqf.googlegroups.com> <1fp2o673mu9az$.d9loz1zbcl0d.dlg@40tude.net> <14tiipigyejtc$.hyp7e82egqwq$.dlg@40tude.net> <34d856bd-19a3-4bbf-b9d8-c0f100000ef4@k7g2000vbd.googlegroups.com> <1tpl2pc36ptr4$.txv4v3wmkjlm.dlg@40tude.net> Reply-To: mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de NNTP-Posting-Host: FbOMkhMtVLVmu7IwBnt1tw.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.15.1 X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Xref: news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:18086 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: 2011-09-22T10:11:55+02:00 List-Id: On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 21:52:47 -0500, Randy Brukardt wrote: > "Dmitry A. Kazakov" wrote in message > news:1tpl2pc36ptr4$.txv4v3wmkjlm.dlg@40tude.net... > ... >>> Nobody is forcing referential semantics, although it might be the most >>> natural and efficient solution for iterators. >> >> Of course it does, because the iterator refers to the container and to an >> element in that container. Which is evidently fragile as any reference >> when the container and its element mutate. > > Fragile perhaps, but it is definitely possible to be safe (which is more > important, IMHO). Ada.Containers are safe in this aspect, as any attempt to > mutate the container ("tampering") is required to raise Program_Error. Well, but iterators are especially interesting for mutating container due to their referential semantics. Killing that also does one of key advantages they, as pointers, have. -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de