From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 2002:a24:a141:: with SMTP id n1-v6mr2742248iti.35.1529592163401; Thu, 21 Jun 2018 07:42:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:aca:d448:: with SMTP id l69-v6mr1204530oig.0.1529592163262; Thu, 21 Jun 2018 07:42:43 -0700 (PDT) Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.uzoreto.com!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!feeder.usenetexpress.com!feeder-in1.iad1.usenetexpress.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!u78-v6no2226670itb.0!news-out.google.com!z3-v6ni2931iti.0!nntp.google.com!u78-v6no2226667itb.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2018 07:42:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=76.113.16.86; posting-account=lJ3JNwoAAAAQfH3VV9vttJLkThaxtTfC NNTP-Posting-Host: 76.113.16.86 References: <993f28de-6a64-480b-9c6e-d9714bcdef0d@googlegroups.com> <167bec10-2a52-4c79-958d-91faadad915b@googlegroups.com> <2d6a5ab7-812f-47a9-a958-44177a3cf203@googlegroups.com> <4834588f-c891-4a34-a32d-007c91f27399@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Ada lacks lighterweight-than-task parallelism From: Shark8 Injection-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2018 14:42:43 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Xref: reader02.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:53225 Date: 2018-06-21T07:42:42-07:00 List-Id: On Thursday, June 21, 2018 at 3:09:26 AM UTC-6, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote: > On 2018-06-21 02:19, Shark8 wrote: > > On Wednesday, June 20, 2018 at 7:38:11 AM UTC-6, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrot= e: > >> On 2018-06-20 15:14, Mehdi Saada wrote: > >>> So I guess you are in favor with deeper (and de facto) integration of= compilers with static analysis tools ? > >> > >> Absolutely. Not as tools. SPARK must become an integral part of Ada. > >> Static analysis and defined provable semantics is major strength of Ad= a. > >> > > Agreed; this is why I'm pushing for a heavily integrated IDE with my ID= E-proposal. > > I'd be quite interested to hear your thoughts on the subject. >=20 > Why do you think that an IDE is important here? (Not that I will use=20 > emacs, ever! (:-)) >=20 Integration. I don't mean "IDE" like the industry has come to think of it (editor + butt= on-to-call-external-tool). / Think more like R-1000 on steroids, not GPS. The integration that you're proposing isn't going to be happening on this r= evision of the language, BUT we can integrate it as closely as possible in = the form of an IDE, acting /as if/ there were a requirement for such integr= ation. (And indeed, the Ada spec requires a degree of this WRT static analy= sis currently, so it certainly is possible to integrate these things.)