From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,de40179562eb508d X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,CP1252 Path: g2news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!b42g2000yqi.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Ludovic Brenta Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: A scapegoat once again :( Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 05:25:10 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: References: <9b0df7c4-e934-44ad-b388-19174df51343@r20g2000yqd.googlegroups.com> <9f503be5-2fd3-4650-b4c6-7ca707882e70@f11g2000vbx.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 153.98.68.197 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1306153511 13308 127.0.0.1 (23 May 2011 12:25:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 12:25:11 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: b42g2000yqi.googlegroups.com; posting-host=153.98.68.197; posting-account=pcLQNgkAAAD9TrXkhkIgiY6-MDtJjIlC User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.0.6) Gecko/2009012111 Red Hat/3.0.6-1.el5 Firefox/3.0.6,gzip(gfe) Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:19380 Date: 2011-05-23T05:25:10-07:00 List-Id: Gautier write-only wrote: > Britt Snodgrass wrote: > >> Seen on DailyTech today: >> >>http://www.dailytech.co/F22+Upgrades+Over+Budget+and+Behind+Schedule... >> >> "The cause of the delay in delivery stems from the programming >> language used called Ada. The Ada language was once a DoD standard, >> but the use of the language has waned in the last 15 years. Analyst >> Loren Thompson from the Lexington Institute said, "It tends to impede >> quick upgrades to the system to which it is the base software." >> >> It=92s really sad and disturbing to read such an incorrect and >> uninformed statement. How could Ada "impede quick upgrades" unless >> they really mean that the coders they've been hiring recently are >> intimidated by compiler warnings. > > It is especially wrong considering upgrades: it is difficult to have > quicker upgrades than with Ada (at least, GNAT): > - Install the new GNAT (a few minutes) > - *That's it* ! No need to spend a week upgrading sources or running > upgrade wizards like with MS tools for instance. They were not talking about upgrading the development environment. They were talking about upgrading the embedded life-critical software on board the aircraft. That does not diminish the utter stupidity of the statement. I think there are at least two idiots at work here: one inside the project who has heard of Ada and wants to get rid of it, and one "expert" who doesn't know what software is and repeats whatever the first one said. Both should be held accountable for their incompetence. -- Ludovic Brenta.