From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD, FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,666bab5bfbdf30c2 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII Path: g2news2.google.com!postnews.google.com!j32g2000yqc.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Elias_Salom=E3o_Helou_Neto?= Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Generating PDFs with Ada Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 18:49:09 -0800 (PST) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: References: <4d2908c7$0$22120$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> <9f23e50a-2c2c-4ccc-bd56-f6ffdc6c7ee7@37g2000prx.googlegroups.com> <82aaj73jsr.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <7a048419-1126-45b2-bfa9-26f3ad6e480e@fu15g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 189.103.27.62 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1295146149 19772 127.0.0.1 (16 Jan 2011 02:49:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 02:49:09 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: j32g2000yqc.googlegroups.com; posting-host=189.103.27.62; posting-account=8auP9QoAAACkSx2qxJhP83KA6-tg78E8 User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US) AppleWebKit/534.8 SUSE/7.0.528.0 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/7.0.528.0 Safari/534.8,gzip(gfe) Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:17415 Date: 2011-01-15T18:49:09-08:00 List-Id: a =E9crit: > > Now, for automatic document generation, both from practical and > I understand the advocacy, but you still need a source for the document. = =A0PDFis not a source, and TeX/LaTeX are neither good for that purpose (no = =A0 > more than RTF is), added the already pointed fact of lack of real support= =A0 > for Unicode (unless you use the 1GB install of an application I forget th= e =A0 > name) which is a must-have for many text based work (especially if you = =A0 > need multiple languages in the same document, like Arabic + French, =A0 > Japanese + Italian, and so on). This is not readable neither. You are right. In fact, .rtf is a better source in most cases, since we can't hope to have a secretary who knows TeX. But I meant that in the context of an automatic generated intermediate format. > Better XML as source than TeX/LaTex there. Some document model exist for = =A0 I know very much about TeX and very little about XML. If you know equally well about both then you may be right. Just wondering if you're not saying that only because you know XML better than TeX. > About MS Office document in administrations, at least in france,PDFis =A0 > every where. I receive e-mail bills inPDF, and all official documents you= =A0 > can order on-line on administration's web sites, arePDF(do not know for = =A0 > other countries, while pretty sure it's the same in all of the Europe). Congratulations to French people. I'm at Brazil and .doc is everywhere. I don't care how the document is generated, but how it is exchanged. Why not convert the stuff into a PDF so that everyone can read it? > AboutPDFnow: I remember when it appears in the 199Xs, this was an ogre, = =A0 > consuming too much CPU power and memory. This was best used for printing = =A0 > than for on-screen reading (the HD was scrapping and grinding as much as = =A0 > you were scrolling your document). This was likely an implementation issue. PDF documents have a precisely located object table, which contains the position of every object in the file and the format is page based. When you jump to a page it does not need to read the hole stuff to render it. It is in contrast with PostScript, which does require everything to be rendered from the beginning of the document. Still, by that time, PS renderers were faster than their PDF counterparts. Elias.