From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,5cb36983754f64da X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public Path: controlnews3.google.com!news2.google.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-ham1.dfn.de!news.uni-hamburg.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!uni-duisburg.de!not-for-mail From: Georg Bauhaus Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: No call for Ada (was Re: Announcing new scripting/prototyping language) Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 12:06:40 +0000 (UTC) Organization: GMUGHDU Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: l1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de X-Trace: a1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de 1083586000 8583 134.91.1.34 (3 May 2004 12:06:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@news.uni-duisburg.de NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 12:06:40 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: tin/1.5.8-20010221 ("Blue Water") (UNIX) (HP-UX/B.11.00 (9000/800)) Xref: controlnews3.google.com comp.lang.ada:203 Date: 2004-05-03T12:06:40+00:00 List-Id: Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote: : On Sat, 1 May 2004 06:38:08 +0400 (MSD), "Alexander E. Kopilovich" : wrote: : Engineering is a product of science. Without science it is called : craftsmanship. You are free to make this distinction, and I am free to call it stuck-up. :>So your understanding of democracy implies that any substantial influence, :>even in complex scientific/technical matters, can be performed only by bodies, :>of which general public is well aware through mass-media? : : Absolutely. To be prepared for concessions (science is an expensive : thing) public has to be aware of what's going on. That's funny. There are some very illuminating books about who is helping whom to get this or that on the way, including scientific endeavors that might never be accepted by the general public. What makes you think that a lobby cannot be supportive in science, only everywhere else? : The difference is that next time, other firm would pay more attention : to quality. Good joke ;-) In general, a big company will be offered new contracts no matter how high the percentage of failed projects is, so malfunctioning software is just one of the factors that might influence future negotiations and choices of contractors. :>My answer for that is very simple: hospitals and physicians must understand :>their tools. : :> Probably they will not buy a :>lancet that is boxed with radio-set for use them simultaneously. : : They will, because it is cheaper. Not my experience. -- Georg