From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,fc6f9338f3a892fe X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public Path: controlnews3.google.com!news1.google.com!news.glorb.com!newsfeed.stueberl.de!newsr1.ipcore.viaginterkom.de!news-peer1!btnet-feed5!btnet!news.btopenworld.com!not-for-mail From: "Yeric" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: A couple of questions Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 22:25:15 +0000 (UTC) Organization: BT Openworld Message-ID: References: <87k6zv7vil.fsf@insalien.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: host217-43-228-9.range217-43.btcentralplus.com X-Trace: hercules.btinternet.com 1083450315 18561 217.43.228.9 (1 May 2004 22:25:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news-complaints@lists.btinternet.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 22:25:15 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Xref: controlnews3.google.com comp.lang.ada:174 Date: 2004-05-01T22:25:15+00:00 List-Id: > People who take the time to gather information before making a > decision deserve respect. There are few like you who understand that > they will learn even from languages they finally dismiss. Thank you > > I also evaluated Eiffel, and was impressed with it, before I finally > decided I liked Ada better because Ada does not force object-oriented > formalisms on those who don't need them, has more composition > mechanisms than just inheritance, and provides range checking in the > type system rather than contracts. YMMV. Good luck with your > evaluation. > > -- > Ludovic Brenta. YMMV ? Yes I understand what you are saying about Eiffel, Ada seems to allow mixed OO & non OO it is the programmers decision, but also makes sure the code is safer regardles of the style(s) chosen. I have not fully explored OO, but from my experience with Java, it somtimes seemed awkward to use OO implementations, where a procedural non OO solution seemed more natural. Maybe choice is a good thing, and the programmer is still allowed to take more control of the program without sacrificing safety. >From what I have seen of Ada and Eiffel syntax, it seems more natural to write and read certainly more so than Java or C++, not that I am rubbishing either language, it is just that they seem unatuaral if that makes sense? There were times when writing in C++, that I could almost translate the syntax into assembler in my mind while typing it, not that I know a great deal of assembly language, but we were subjected to 8 weeks of it as part of our understanding of computers and programming languages. It taught me a lot but certainly not assembly language :) Thanks agin for all the replies and help so far, I am in no doubt, that I will be posting again, when the answers I find on google do not make as much sense as the answers in this news group. Yeric